HCG Use in Men on TRT or as Monotherapy: Over 200 Questions and Answers

[Nelson Vergel]

I collected questions and answers posted on ExcelMale.com in the last 10 years about the use of human chorionic gonadotropin in men who want to prevent loss of testicular size and fertility while on testosterone replacement therapy or that want to use hCG alone as a way to boost their testosterone blood levels.

These are the top HCG related posts on ExcelMale.com that will be covered in the upcoming hCG Manual I am writing.

Introduction to HCG Usage​

HCG is used alongside TRT and for fertility purposes, particularly pre-IVF. In this discussion, we'll dive into the different experiences and evidence surrounding HCG usage. Keep watching to learn more.

HCG and TRT: A Personal Experience​

In my experience and what we observe in clinics, HCG is often used with TRT. While many preach its necessity, it largely depends on personal response. For some, like Nelson Vergel, it significantly improves sex drive and libido, while others may not have the same experience. Dosage can vary, and it's often a matter of trial and error to see what works best.

The Impact of HCG on Libido and Testicular Size​

Nelson Vergel shares his strong bias in favor of HCG, noting that despite its recent popularity, he personally went many years without it while on testosterone. Although he felt fine, he noticed a dramatic increase in sex drive when he started using HCG. Testicular shrinkage and decreased sperm volume are common without HCG, but some experience pain during sex due to testicular atrophy. While not universally effective, HCG can enhance libido and help maintain testicular size for some men.

The Science Behind HCG and Fertility​

Dr. George Tillyattle shares research findings on HCG's role in fertility. Studies have shown that HCG, particularly when combined with FSH, can improve sperm count and quality in about two-thirds of men on testosterone replacement therapy. However, there are still challenges, such as ensuring adherence to treatment protocols.

HCG’s Influence on Estrogen and Water Retention​

Some men experience side effects like water retention, acne, and increased estrogen levels with HCG. Despite this, for those who respond well, the benefits outweigh the drawbacks. The right dose of HCG remains controversial, with studies suggesting that while it works for many, it’s not effective for everyone, especially those with longer exposure to testosterone or older age.

HCG’s Role Beyond Fertility​

Emerging research suggests that HCG may have broader implications beyond fertility, possibly influencing cognitive function and neurosteroids. Nelson Vergel discusses how his productivity and brain function have improved since starting HCG, raising the question of whether early use could have provided even greater benefits.

Conclusion: Individualized Treatment with HCG​

HCG’s effectiveness varies from person to person, making it essential to tailor treatment to individual needs. Whether for fertility, testicular maintenance, or enhanced libido, HCG can be beneficial, but it’s not a one-size-fits-all solution. For those using it for fertility, enduring side effects may be necessary to achieve desired outcomes. Ultimately, personal experience and professional guidance should inform HCG usage.

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The Use of HCG to Prevent / Reverse Testicular Shrinkage and Preserve Fertility

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (From the book Testosterone: A Mans Guide, amazon.com) Human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG) (not to be confused with human growth hormone, or HGH) is a glycoprotein hormone that mimics LH (luteinizing hormone), produced in pregnancy by the developing embryo soon after...

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US State Regulations on Testosterone and HCG

Click Each State to View Its Rules & Regulations Related to Testosterone and HCG. Testosterone is a Schedule III controlled substance in all states. HCG is not (NY, AL are the only states that regulate HCG as a schedule III) If no information is posted on your estate, then that means there are...

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How to Find a Good Doctor that Prescribes Testosterone, HCG and Anastrozole

Many primary care doctors in the United States feel comfortable prescribing testosterone in the present. Unfortunately, many doctors still do not know much about the proper management of testosterone replacement or are afraid to prescribe it. Here are several resources that can help you if you...

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Why is HCG Beneficial to Men ?

Why is HCG Beneficial to Men ? Basic Information on HCG: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) refers to glycoprotein a hormone that imitates luteinizing hormone, which is produced by pregnant women by a developing embryo immediately after conception. The role of HCG is to prevent the...

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What Every Man Should Know About HCG, Testosterone and Testicular Size.

What Every Man Should Know About HCG, Testosterone and Testicular Size. Testosterone is one of the most important hormones for a man’s health. While most people see it as the men fertility hormone, it does so much more: It plays a role in the development of facial and body hair It promotes...

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Is HCG safe for long term use

Hi Folks, I am thinking at start TRT + HCG and would like to know what is the long term side effects of using HCG. I know few people use HCG only when they trying to conceive but what if i keep using HCG for like lets say 5 years. Does it cause any problems? The reason for not trying TRT alone...

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Nelson Vergel 's Testosterone plus HCG Protocol

The Use of HCG to Prevent / Reverse Testicular Shrinkage and Preserve Fertility • HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) is produced by human placenta, sterile product derived from urine of pregnant females. Recombinant DNA formulas are produced by pharmaceutical companies and compounding...

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Types Of HCG

What is the best dose of HCG? Dr Saya presents two case studies.

Community - I am sharing and have attached the write-up of a recent small case study I have conducted on quantitative serum beta hCG concentrations relating to hCG injections. This study is limited to dosages of 150iu and 500iu, although I hope to obtain more data in the near future. P.S...

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Why is HCG Important for Men on Testosterone Replacement Therapy?

Nelson Vergel from www.ExcelMale.com explains the benefits of human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) use in men with low testosterone beyond fertility and testicular atrophy reversal. For more details go to:https://www.excelmale.com/showthread.... and watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uXoB...

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Where to get HCG w/o a prescription?

My endo nor pcp will not do anything to do with HCG though they do allow me to take clomid. Where can I get some legit HCG? I have gotten HCG online in the past but I don't think they were legit. I had an increase in A1C level after using the HCG I got online. Thank you

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The FDA Ended Your Access to More Economical hCG and FSH

UPDATE ON DECEMBER 1, 2021: The FDA has just made it a lot more difficult for couples seeking fertility to start a family. They have shut down the only affordable access to fertility hormones made by compounding pharmacies for over 40 years . All compounders were ordered to stop making...

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hCG is NOT LH

https://www.peaktestosterone.com/hcg_versus_lh_luteinizing_hormone/

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Can increasing HCG take the place of TRT temporarily?

Been on 2x "100mg Test C" & 2x "500IU HCG" for nearly 3 months and loving the results (mind, body, etc.). Due to Covid19 my lady and I are forced to move our first pregnancy forward to about 3 months from now. To prepare for this shall what protocol recommendations are recommended? Shall I cut...

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HCG prescribed: where do i get it cheaply

I just got my HCG prescription for 2 vials of 10000 um. My insurance said no because of it being a bulk powder or something. Where can i get it cheaply. Ive seen the coupons for $105 a vial at CVS. Is that the cheapist. I don't think i can sustain that cost monthly dor too long...

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Daily HCG - any benefit?

There was a post about this over a year ago, and had some good info, but I'd like to get a more current perspective of HCG dosing. I've read several posts on other sites that claim daily HCG dosing has a lot of benefits (better libido, erection strength, energy). However, I've read that doses...

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When HCG is Added to TRT

Hey, I have been reading threads thru out the years since I've been on TRT. I appreciate everyone's advice and stories of their own. However, I haven't seen a question like mine. I have three children and after my youngest was born, 4 years ago, I began to experience low T symptoms. After blood...

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T + HCG + (FSH or HMG)?

My NP is giving me the option of HMG or FSH. I already take about 500iu of HCG per week (split into two, any more aromatizes). Any reason to go for FSH over the HMG....cost, effect?

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HCG and Trimix Support Program for Men

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Expiration Date for TRT/HCG

How long after first use of a bottle of TRT/HCG until it expires and can no longer use it? The bottle of TRT has been kept in a dark cabinet, the HCG in the fridge.

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Blood test for HCG ??

HCG Beta Subunit, Quantitative (Cancer) Blood Test This test is used as a tumor marker for certain cancers. It is used to evaluate and monitor male individuals with testicular tumors. This test is also used to determine the presence of hCG in individuals with gestational trophoblastic disease...

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Clinic switched to Gonadorelin from HcG. What to do?

They did a quick bait and switch with a day's warning prior to sending out my package. This tanspired into me reading a lot about Gonadorelin and realizing I'd much rather stick to HCG for the sake of fertility and my future health. They're not willing to send a Rx to Empower, or any other...

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HCG and Testosterone Cypionate and wife is pregnant!!!!

Attached is my recent sperm analysis (July 1st, 2020) and my HCG & T protocol. For the past 2.5 years I’ve been taking 300 IU’s .1 2x week HCG and 80mg .4 2x week T Cyp. My testes have mild atrophy, but decent sperm load and I notice a difference the longer I go without HCG. I decided to get...

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T Cream + Hcg

To the guys on here who have had great success with cream protocol. Do any of you use cream plus hcg with great results? I know some guys use cream plus injections but I am wondering about cream plus hcg... or if most, or all, with great success with cream are using cream only, with nothing else.

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Lowering test to add hcg

Has anyone here felt better, mainly libido and sexual function, by lowering their test dose so that they're mid range instead of upper end, and adding hcg? If so can you share your experience and numbers/doses?

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HCG dosage for bringing testicle size back

I've been searching for info regarding HCG dosing, but it seems to be really mixed so I'm asking for opinions/knowledge/links to research/etc. My trt doc prescribed hcg to bring my balls back to life, since I'm looking to quit trt. My dr told me to take 5000iu 2x/week. Apparently it takes big...

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Best Gadgets & Accessories for Men on Testosterone, hCG, Trimix, etc

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Your experience with HCG, could you take it or leave it?

Hello, I'm new to TRT with HCG but not testosterone replacement. Recently put on HCG as part of new TRT protocol. I really want to pick each of your brains in hopes to hear some arguments for the use of HCG mainly outside of either fertility and aesthetics. I've never used HCG in the years Ive...

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HCG Storage

Hi, My HCG which is pregnyl shows that the reconstitute solution is good for 28 days. That means, once the powder is mixed with solution then it can be used max 28 days right provided its kept in fridge. I use less dosage like 600iu per week and my HCG last for 2 months. What should i do...

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HCG Availability | COVID

Hey guys, Which websites are still shipping HCG to the US? I have used reliablerxpharmacy, safemeds4all and premiumrxdrugs in the past. Thanks!

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Stopped hCG and feel no difference?

Hi, My current protocol is 4 pumps of androgel daily with 500iu's of hCG every other day. I've hit over 1300 total T on this protocol: My labs on 4 pumps of Androgel and 500iu's of hCG EOD With the pandemic, I couldn't get the hCG and I only had one bottle left so I stretched it out. For the...

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I get anxiety when using hCG with TRT

I've tried starting HCG several times over the last two years with similar results. By day 7 I start to have anxiety from it. I've tried 500 eod, 350, and 250 with the same results. I keep trying because it helps with my mood and well being the first couple of days. The doc seemed stumped...

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Need Help! After MANY pharmacy calls, no hCG alternative. Now what?

Being on a protocol for MANY years that is working great for me, I have made calls to many pharmacies and inquired on many forums on the web regarding any hCG alternatives on the market. We all know that hCG will be coming off the market and supply will run out and it is not going to be...

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Gonadorelin alternative to hCG - Kisspeptin a peptide that is not approved for compounding

After doing some digging since a clinic i know is no longer using hCG, a called a few pharmacies and found out they are going to be offering Gonadorelin and NOT Kisspeptin. Kisspeptin is a peptide and it is NOT approved to be compounded and states like California will not approve it, while...

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My clinic & hCG no longer being available - Empower Pharmacy?

So it seems my clinic's pharmacy is no longer providing hCG so they want to change my protocol which i would rather not do. I see everyone mentioning Empower pharmacy but it is illegal for them to even continue to produce hcg from my understanding and they are breaking the law based on the...

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Treating Low Testosterone with Clomid, hCG and Aromatase Inhibitors: A Review of the Data

Abstract Testosterone deficiency is defined as a total testosterone level

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HPTA Recovery Log to Re Start Testosterone Production

Hello everyone. Following my failed attempt at restarting my natural testosterone production, I'm back on HRT in the form of 500iu HCG 3x p/w. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Current issues: Always cold, especially extremities Absent Libido...

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Kisspeptin-10 as a replacement for compounded HCG?

My Dr told me that their pharmacy can no longer compound HCG, but that he is going to start using Kisspeptin-10 as the alternative without increasing my monthly fee. He told me that Kisspeptin acts like GnRH and stimulates the Pituitary to release both LH and FSH. I've done some reading online...

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Bacteriostatic Water for HcG mixing.

Hey gang. Quick question. Is the recommendation that any leftover bacteriostatic water be discarded? The kit that I got recently got has two vials of hCG powder but only one vial of bacteriostatic water (multi use 30ml) Typically I would just reconstitute one HcG vial at a time with the 5ml of...

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Do you like HCG?

I’ve searched for hours and read countless answers from people, yet it’s hard to gauge the split on who likes HCG versus who doesn’t. Plain and simple. Don’t think about “well I liked it until my kid knocked the vial over” or “well the UGL one sucked but”. As of today, do you like (and...

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HCG Half life IM vs SubQ?

So I am finding some info about IM HCG injections having way shorter half life compared to SubQ but can't really find solid info on this. I was always under the impression they had little difference at the typical doses for TRT and even Monotherapy. Does anyone know of any data on this? I am...

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Lowest Dose of HCG to Avoid Atrophy

What's up guys, Seems like numbers are all over the place on how much HCG is needed to avoid atrophy. Some people are able to get away with very minimal doses while other need more of a significant amount. For those that use HCG just to avoid atrophy what is the dose/frequency that works for...

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High HCG dosage causing increase in heartbeat

Hello Everyone, My private doctor started 1250mg per week since 2 weeks. He wants to know whether hcg monotherapy works. Anyways, the reason i am writing this is i feel like i am going to get heart attack. Just running few steps cause my heart to pump crazy. Do anybody experienced that? Even...

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Does HCG raise estradiol more/faster than straight testosterone cypionate?

I’m doing 60 mg TC x 2 weekly and just added again 375 IU HCG 3 X weekly. Does the HCG add/raise estradiol faster/more than just the testosterone? Latest estradiol sensitive at labcorp came back at 48, range < 45. Not to concerned, just curious. Thanks All.

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Trimix and hCG Access Program

Are you currently on TRT but your Doctor won't prescribe HCG or Trimix? Would you like to consult by phone with a licensed Medical Doctor who is an expert in TRT? Do you have questions your primary doctor cannot answer? Click on picture:

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Adrenal Fatigue from no HCG?

I have always struggled to take HCG due to it aromatisation to Estrogen even at small doses. I have 2 COMT SNP’s that significantly decrease my body ability to clear estrogen and having high estrogen levels further decreases my ability to clear estrogens. I have also had lumps form in my...

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Hcg and levels of LH and FSH

Hi everybody stopped by to ask a question to see if anybody could help me out. I was curious if my luteinizing hormone and my follicle stimulating hormone levels are going to change with my HCG that I'm taking? I have been on a certain amount of HCG but my blood work is still showing my LH and...

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HCG and sensitivity/libido

How exactly does HCG increase penis sensitivity, libido, and/or genital blood flow in men? Is it the LH mimicking, rising t/e, or another mechanism? I am skeptical of its supposed pregnenolone/backfilling properties since its never been shown in bloodwork. If it is testosterone related, could...

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SUPER SENSITIVE TESTICLES ON HCG

Started offsetting trt/hcg injections: increased libido Penis and balls super sensitive

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Principles of Testosterone and hCG Injection Technique

Selecting the Devices There are many different syringes and needles, suiting many different procedures. It is important to choose the needles and syringes carefully according to the type of injection to be administered. For example, the length and gauge of the needle and type of syringe must...

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How to calculate cc dosing from mg of testosterone and IUs of hCG?

I can't seem to find any good calculators or conversion tables online. I think part of it is I don't know what I am doing, and the other part is I afraid of screwing up. I inject 140mg of T cyp a week divided into two doses. So what is 70 MG in ML? 400 ui's of HCG is how many ML?

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Successful treatment of Post-orgasmic illness syndrome with hCG

Successful treatment of Post-orgasmic illness syndrome with human chorionic gonadotropin (2019) Jose Bolan, Abraham Morgentaler ABSTRACT Post-orgasmic illness syndrome (POIS) is an uncommon condition in which men experience debilitating symptoms following orgasm, including anxiety, weakness...

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HCG and sleep issues/insomnia

I decided to experiment with HCG again recently because I do notice a slight boost of well-being and libido with it, but even the smallest dose gives me insomnia. I did a single injection of 80iu Monday morning and I find myself waking up at 4am the last couple of nights wide awake with heart...

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Is there any evidence that HCG on cycle makes PCT easier?

Hi all on this amazing forum, I know this is mostly a TRT forum, but I know y’all are knowledgeable about this subject which is why I’m asking here. I’m coming toward the end of my 500mg test + 250 sust per week cycle and have been pinning 500iu HCG EOD throughout (plus .5 mg anastrozole per...

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More Pleasurable Orgasms Within Hours of an HCG Injection.

I notice that sex is more pleasurable with more intense orgasms within about 8 Hours on an HCG injection. I can defiantly feel the difference, to the point where I try to time sex on the same day as an injection. Has anyone else noticed this too?

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Left the HCG out of the refrigerator for 8 hours

Accidentally forgot to put the vial back in the refrigerator today after injecting. Was out at room temperature for about 8 hours. Is it still good?

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Need some advice, increase HCG or add clomiphene

I am a 64 y/o male, non-diabetic, normal blood pressure, been on compounded cream TRT replacement therapy last 4 years. Was experiencing some testicular shrinkage so started HCG two years ago at 350u every other day now up to 500u every other day. A lower dosage of the cream along with the HCG...

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Reliablerxpharmacy Corion HCG alternatives

I bought Corion HCG from Reliablerxpharmacy the last time I ordered and was happy with it, but unfortunately it's out of stock. There are multiple other brands, but I don't know which one is the best of the rest. Can you guys offer some suggestions? Thank you!

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Full Fertility recovery after long term high dose AAS

I wanted to give my story for anyone who is or has been in this situation. I know there have been a lot of success stories given on here but one more couldn't hurt. From 2008-2018 I was on high dose AAS/testosterone with almost no ancillaries or HCG. I am now 41, so basically my entire 30s and...

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HCG USE IN MEN OVER AGE 50

Hey guys. Looking for input. A friend told me he read an article that said HCG tends to be less effective in men over 50. Has anyone ever heard of this? Thanks Kaes

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Where do you get your HCG?

Where do you get your HCG and have you ever had any potency issues with it?

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How different is compounded HCG vs Pregnyl?

Hey guys, so I have been on HCG for the past 6 months and it's been through as a brand-name pregnyl which has been working wonderfully but... It's quite pricey $127 from the pharmacy I get it at . Also the amount I use which is only 500 IU a week broken into two injections isn't a lot and I end...

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Can HCG Monotherapy Reverse Testicular Atrophy Caused by Varicocele?

I have read through many stories on here about individuals who successfully reversed TRT-induced testicular atrophy using HCG. I have also read a litany of medical studies that demonstrated a similar result. While this is certainly encouraging, I am left wondering whether HCG can also reverse...

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Guys who like HCG - what do you like about it?

I’ve heard it makes men feel more “full” or “better” but what specifically does that mean? It definitely makes me a little jittery and I’m trying to look for positives that might make it worthwhile. A few things are still lacking on just T and I’m trying to decide if it’s worth another shot.

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Guys who didn't like HCG but now use a lower dose...

What sort of dose are you on? I started on 300iu 3x weekly and I felt like I drank 17 cups of coffee and my BP was going to make my fingers pop off. Wasn't too pleasant. I have some unresolved issues on T cyp alone, and want to remain fertile, so I've considered trying HCG alone at a lower dose.

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What Are The Long Term Consequences of No HCG While On TRT ?

I'm 55 years old and have been on TRT for 4+ years and struggling to get dialed in all this time. I am almost ready to throw in the towel but have been trying a few final approaches before giving up. One thing I'm doing which seems to be working so far is to stop HCG all together. I am...

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HCG and BP spike?

I have been having some issues with elevated BP over last 6 months and started checking it 3 times a day and logging results, as the doc tweaks my meds. During this process I have learned that the 24-36 hours following my HCG injections my BP is 15-18 points higher on average than other days...

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How to know if 500 iu 2x weekly of hcg is enough?

Hello everybody I have a quick question I am taking 500 IU's of HCG the day before my testosterone shots twice-weekly how do I know if I am getting enough HCG with those two 500iu shots?

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Balls are small even on hcg??

Hey guys, my balls are smaller on trt even being on hcg? They are smaller and mostly hugged to my body for the most part. Does this mean not using enough hcg?? Protocol: rod Test cyp/prop 39mg Hcg 280ius

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Former TRT User, does taking HCG on and off, slow the recovery process of the HPTA ?

This would be after the normal 4-6 week hcg run after coming off testosterone, so would doing another run of HCG 12-16 weeks after stopping testosterone, slow the recovery process ?? I know it can take 9+months to fully recover

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Using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) alone for the treatment of men with low testosterone.

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin monotherapy for the treatment of hypogonadal symptoms in men with total testosterone > 300 ng/dL. Madhusoodanan V, Patel P, Lima TFN, Gondokusumo J, Lo E, Thirumavalavan N, Lipshultz LI, Ramasamy R Human Chorionic Gonadotropin monotherapy for the treatment of...

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Breast pain started from HCG. Question?

Hey guys so it's been about nine weeks since I've added HCG to my trt regiment. I take a hundred mg of testosterone step unit weekly and have added 800 IU of HCG a week. No AI has been added yet because my levels were normal as of my last panel of blood. I don't next week for new blood work...

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Whats the absolute lowest dose of HCG to maintain fertility?

What is the absolute lowest dose of HCG I can take daily to preserve fertility? A bit of a history. I am on 60 mg of testosterone twice a week. (total 120 mg) I don't have sides with testosterone only. My sensitive estradiol would be 5 pg/ml sometimes 10 pg/ml on .25 mg EOD so I went of...

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Intranasal HCG

Hi Folks... Just wondering if anyone has any info or experience with this intranasal HCG product? I'd much rather travel with hcg that doesn't need to be refrigerated... A remarkable weightloss hormone for a thinner body

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Traveling for 10 days tomorrow skip HCG?

Hey guys, I was planning to get a cooler for my HCG and putting it into the checked luggage with my test and needles. However, I didn't have time to get a cooler that I knew would work for 12 hours and now I'm wondering, since I'm only going to be gone for 10 days, should I just take an HCG...

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HCG and/or Pregnenolone Effect on Cholesterol

First time post! Thanks for the great forum. I've learned a ton. Along with my own TRT journey and analysis of my own families health concerns I began to speculate that the reason my father's (and mine) cholesterol is "genetically" high is because his hormone levels are low. I then ran...

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Using HCG to lower LDL: The "Bad" Cholesterol

Hi All I have spent hours looking for studies about using HCG while on TRT and/or cycling to lower LDL Acording to Seth Spartan HCG will lower LDL I am currently on TRT if this is true my doctor would surely prescribe HCG but i need some studies to back me up cheers!

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HCG causing water retention? on PCT after Sustanon

I have done a 12 week cycle of Sustanon at 500mg per week and it has now been 1 week since my last injection of 250 mg (I was doing two shots each at 250mg per week). Started taking HCG at 1500 iu E3D from Friday last week and now noticing water retention. Especially in face and stomach. My...

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TRT+ HCG+FSH Dosage

I know there is a thread related to this but it was old and i thought i will create a new one. So I have low testosterone and also low sperm count coupled with tons of issues like ED, high cholestrol, low RBC to name a few. So I am planning to start the below mentioned dose and check my blood...

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Online prescription of TRT/HCG

Hello folks, Does anyone knows which doctors/nurse can provide prescription over the phone or video chat? I live in canada and its expensive and time consuming to visit doctor and takes usually 3 to 4 months and in the end you dont even get prescription. SO looking for somebody who can just see...

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Interesting results with HCG dosage/Frequency

I just wanted to point out the differences I saw in my T levels with different hcg protocols. Test-C 40 mg 2x a week and hcg 500 iu 2x a week: Total t>1100 Free T- 20 E2 - 34 Test-C 40 mg 2x a week and hcg 360 iu 3x a week: Total t - 783 Free t - 15 E2 - 24 It would appear 360 iu 3x a week...

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Maintaining/Increasing Sperm count in men with Primary Hypogonadism

Hello Friends, I am new to this group and i feel that this site is a life saver. Technically I am within normal range but i have high LH/FSH and Low Testosterone and Low Sperm count which makes me a primary hypogonadism. Since, my testis is working partially, it is producing some testosterone...

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Is HCG alone enough to raise T?

Hi, I'm 42, located at Jakarta, Indonesia. I've been having brain fog, depression, anxiety, irritability, restlessness, very low tolerance to stress, insomnia, frequent urination, crashing after meal and bunch of other symptoms for years. I'm currently working with a functional medicine doc...

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Do we really need LH, or HCG, to convert Pregnenolone to downstream Hormones?

@Nelson Vergel, I'm going to tag you again on this. I just watched the video on the link below and enjoyed it. Looking really forward for the Thyroid one. In the video you mentioned again LH is needed to convert Pregnenolone to downstream hormones. We had a quick chat on another post about...

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HCG caused tight scrotum?

I've noticed when I use HCG my scrotum tightens up. Has anyone else had this problem? I'm guessing it's raising my estrogen too high which is the actual culprit versus when I'm not using HCG. Any thoughts,experiences

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Has anyone seen bloodwork that verified that HCG alone increased levels of dhea, pregnenolone, progesterone?

There is alot of good information on HCG backfilling pathways. I get confused when individuals are taking hcg along with dhea and pregnenolone supplementation. Has anyone had blood work done that shows hcg increasing either/all dhea, pregnenolone and progesterone?

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HCG Injection Sites

I'm a bit of a needle phobic. My wife administers my TRT (glutes) while I have been taking care of the twice weekly HCG shots in my belly. For whatever reason this still causes me stress. In an attempt to reduce stress, last night I had my wife inject HCG into my glute, subcutaneously. I felt...

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Where to find syringes, ED drugs, doctors, HCG, and much more

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Blood Test to Measure Efficacy of HCG in Men

The use of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) increases blood levels of testosterone but, surprisingly, it decreases the level of testosterone inside the testicles (Intratesticular testosterone or ITT). ITT is key for proper sperm production and testicular size. This ITT decrease is due to...

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Treatment of idiopathic oligozoospermia with combined hCG + hMG: A randomised, double‐blinded

Treatment of idiopathic oligozoospermia with combined human chorionic gonadotropin/human menopausal gonadotrophin: A randomised, double‐blinded, placebo‐controlled clinical study Nan Zhao1 | Xi‐Lan Lu2 | Jun‐Tao Li2 | Jian‐Min Zhang Abstract To evaluate whether hCG/hMG therapy has...

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Testicles “retracting” during sex?

Hi everyone- I’ve got a somewhat unusual question. I searched around and couldn’t find similar questions out there and so I’m hoping someone here may have some insight. Since beginning TRT 10 weeks ago, my testicles have begun “retracting” into my body during sex. This doesn’t seem to happen...

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Best prices on HCG?

A friend of mine who has been on HCG for two years is no longer getting it covered from his insurance. He is concerned about fertility and does not want TRT. Does anyone know where HGC can be purchased at a decent price? Do overseas pharmacies carry this? He has a prescription but needs info on...

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HCG & Gyno / High E2

I have a ton of respect for Mr Vergel and I know he said HCG doesn’t raise E2 that much, but I’ve been on TRT 1.5 years / 150 mg twice week (75 x2) & recently got on 500 iu twice weekly HCG. I have never felt better, finally no foggy head and I have all the benefits of the trt, HOWEVER, horribly...

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HCG acting like TSH?

I've recently discovered that my reverse T3 runs high, even though the rest of my thyroid numbers are normal. My doc is starting me on a daily T3 pill. I read that HCG acts like TSH in the body and can act on the same receptors. If you're someone who naturally converts T4 into a high amount of...

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HCG/:LH possible role in prostate growth?

There is a lot of positive info about the benefits of HCG, but I don’t think it’s all positive. IMO higher levels of HCG/LH can contribute to higher PSA levels and BPH, at least in some percentage of men. But as I note, I am not firm in this opinion. One has to also realize it’s not natural...

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HPTA Restart in Young Men After Anabolic Steroids

Anabolic steroids and testosterone shut down the body's Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis (HPTA) while people use them and for a few weeks after cessation of these compounds. However, some men's testosterone production does not recover back to baseline values. These men have testosterone...

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Is HCG enough to backfill pathways?

Hey guys, I’d like some feedback on this, as I’ve heard arguments from both sides . I’m currently on TRT and supplement with HCG 350 ius twice a week . I’ve never tested my pregnenolone levels or Dhea levels, but am aware that exogenous Test can disrupt the pathways and potentially lower...

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HCG: How much is safe to use?

Hello everyone, As someone who has been on TRT for about 1.5 years I’ve been off and on HCG and tried doses anywhere from 250-500ius per injection. When I started TRT I was immediately put on HCG as I was 24 and my doctor was concerned about fertility issues down the road if I was T only. More...

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On TRT - HCG causing bloat/fat gain, even with normal E2 numbers?

Has anyone else experienced this? Originally I was taking 50 mg T e3d. My trough was around 800-850 and E2 between 24 and 26 on multiple tests. I don't use AIs. I am now taking 250iu HCG every 3 days with a 40mg T shot. My T levels are about the same, and my E2 is consistently coming back...

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HCG & Leydig Cell Disensitization

As per the title I am hoping some knowledgeable gents on the forum can shed some light on the reality of HCG use causing Leydig cell disensitization and if it does what that means long term. I’m currently using 250IU eod and have been reading on other forums, from people purporting to be...

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Help me with my protocol, and Why does my skin get so bad without HCG?

When I'm not using HCG I feel much better. I have a stronger libido and morning wood and erections that are strong (libido and erectile function still not perfect though). I feel more like a man. But my facial skin has a constant coating of oil, is slightly ruddy and bumpy looking, I have 3 or 4...

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HCG and past cancer diagnosis?

8 years cancer free, colon 3c diagnosis. Would HCG be something that if taken with TRT show up on my tests as a positive for cancer???? Does anyone here that had beaten cancer take HCG???? Any issues with blood work while testing for cancer???? Not looking to add to our family, just curious...

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Do you really need to inject HCG twice a week?

It's an extra nuisance and it's more expensive than testosterone. What about injecting once a week?

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Rapid dissolve oral HCG and other HCG questions

Hey guys! I have been accustomed to injectable HCG for a long time. The pharmacy that I use switched to rapid dissolve tablets (specifically an hcg/b12 blend tablet) and assure me it works just as well. Does anyone have any experience?? The dosage of the tablets is 500u and I am to take it...

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Testicles shrinking but doctor refuses to prescribe HCG

Hello all, Ive been on trt since late 2016, testosterone 1/2 cc once a week no hcg. Been noticing my testicles getting smaller and smaller. My doctor knows about hcg but wont prescribe it. I feel great, libido,energy,sleep have all been great since starting trt. Im just missing my...

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Long Term TRT without HCG = Lowered Penis Sensitivity?

Title, TRT is a godsend for me in every aspect of my life except one. I have noticed after being on 150mg/wk for several months my penis sensitivity lowers to nothing. Stopping all TRT injections for a few weeks and being on Clomid and Nolvadex my penis feels more sensitivity then ever. Is it...

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How much does HCG raise testosterone?

Hi everyone. My fiance is on replacement therapy, and we are trying to get his protocol all dialed in. I can't find some good information on this topic. He was diagnosed with secondary hypogonadism. We were wondering, that if you add HCG to someone who is secondary and already on testosterone...

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Testicular Ache but Do Not Want to Use HCG

Anyone experience rather intense testicular aches? Trying to not use HCG as this causes it's own set of problems (Acne, loss of libido, erectile issues). Feel pretty good on straight test other than the pain in the nuts.

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Using HCG test to diagnose primary hypogonadism

In a interview dr Michael Scally say: ..."The first phase of the HPTA protocol examines the functionality of the testicles by the direct action of hCG. hCG raises sex hormone levels directly through the stimulation of testis and secondarily decreases the production and level of the...

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Cortisol issues with HCG ?

We know the chain is HCG-->pregnenolone--->progesterone---->17-hydroxyprogesterone, which converts to cortisol. Is this why it is common to have issues with HCG? Seems people on the forum are moving away from HCG.

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How long will HCG last in the fridge?

I received two vials of hcg from my local compounding pharmacy that should get me through 10 weeks. Im reading that this may exceed its refrigerated shelf life. Will it be ok that long?

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Using hCG and Clomid while on TRT

Hello guys, this is my first post on this forum although I've been lurking for awhile. Interesting that there has been an uptick in guys posting about combining clomid with hCG but I don't believe much discussion has focused on using them both while on TRT. I'll start with this: I've been on...

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Reconstituting HCG to a stronger dose/mL

Hi everyone, I read on here somewhere that some people had reconstituted hcg to double potency/ml by simply mixing half the amount of BA water in, so that they wouldn't have to inject as much fluid. My question is, do you think it would sting more if you made it twice as concentrated, and...

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considering HCG monotherapy

Hi all, This will by my third, and probably last post about HCG. I have developed a pretty thorough understanding of it at this point. Long story short, I was considering TRT+HCG+FSH to preserve fertility, as fertility is very important to me. Even if I don’t plan on having kids I’d just like to...

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Injecting Test and HCG in same syringe

I have seen a couple of videos where Nelson says that he injects Test and HCG at the same time, as in, draws both into the same syringe and does just the one injection. I am only on Test at the moment but plan to start HCG soon. Has anyone else tried Nelsons method? Is it a good idea and is...

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Has anyone else had a change in how they react to HCG - confirmed by Defy

I've had some challenges over the past 9 months on getting dialed back in again which have been mainly due to HCG. I am ready to either cut it down to a minimal part of my protocol or go back to using it daily as opposed to keeping it EOD. When I first came to Defy, Dr Crisler suggested 100 ius...

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HCG in the UK

I started TRT last week and have been unable to source my prescription for Gonasi HCG. My doctor advised me of a place to pick some up and told me that fertility2u was one of the only places to reliably find some at the minute as pregnyl has been discontinued in the UK. Fertility2u works out...

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50 mg/day Clomid (Clomiphene) plus High Dose HCG Study in Men

Clomiphene citrate and human chorionic gonadotropin are both effective in restoring testosterone in hypogonadism: a short‐course randomized study Objectives To compare serum testosterone response and symptom improvement in men with hypogonadism in response to treatment with clomiphene...

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I feel more calm after a HCG injection

Something I was very pleased to find out after I started on hcG is the relaxation/calmness it brings after you inject it and lasts for about 8-10 hours. It can be very faint but just enough to where I look forward to the days I inject it. It’s not some druggy high or anything but just a better...

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HCG Cream

Just curious to know if anyone out there is using or has tried an HCG compounded cream while on trt? I known that injections are the preferred method but they do not work for me due to the side effects. I am back on TRT through DEFY one month in. I feel good but already notice my scrotum getting...

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Is Long Term HCG Use Toxic to Testicular Cells?

NELSON Vergel my dear Brother, i found this Information out today. Do you find it SCARY or not SCARY at all? The PUBmed Research" article here hCG-induced endoplasmic reticulum stress triggers apoptosis and reduces steroidogenic enzyme expression through activating transcription factor 6 in...

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If I can't afford HCG, is supplementing with Preg/DHEA the next best option?

I've been reading lots of information out there on "backfilling pathways" and how supplementing Pregnenolone and DHEA is good in order to supply some of the missing components that TRT will suppress. I am still weighing my options but its looking like HCG may be cost prohibitive at least at this...

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HCG effects on TSH

Hello does anyone know if using HCG ed has an impact on TSH levels mine came back at 5.27 very high

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Which manufacturer is best for HCG

I am looking at Direct Pharmacy and HCG appears to be manufactured by: German remedies Lupin Sun Pharma Cadiela Serum Institute Bharat Serum Is Direct Pharmacy a good distributor? Does anybody have experience with the aforementioned manufacturers? Any recommendations?

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HCG dosage- How to calculate it

I am about to undertake my HCG maiden voyage (adding to my TRT regime) and could use help in assuring my calculations are correct. I will be taking 250iu of HCG twice a week (T & Th) as I understand the the math, since I have 5000iu of freeze dried HCG, I will dilute it with 5ml of...

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Does your doctor prescribe testosterone plus HCG?

Does your doctor prescribe testosterone plus HCG? Please help your doctor get more business and other men who are looking for good doctors. Let us know if your doctor prescribes testosterone plus HCG by filling out this survey. Thanks!! https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/TRTHCGdoctors

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So does HCG actually preserve fertility?

One of my largest reasons for stopping TRT was that I want to have a child. With LH and FSH consistently at 0.0, I know that will be a problem. For the life of me, I cannot find real proof that HCG whole on TRT, and what dosage is required, will maintain a man’s fertility. Is this info not out...

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Get depressed mood without HCG ,why??

Hello guys, I have interesting thing, when I remove HCG from my protocol I got depressed mood and libido, erection isn't exist, can I do something about this? And why it can happen to me? HCG in my country is pretty hard to get.

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Hcg effect on testosterone level while on TRT

I’ve been on TRT several years and have tried HCG a few times but have never did well on it. With that said I prefer not to use it. My question is for guys that are using it with TRT, how much does it affect your total t level as compared to only using test? I’ve never seen this discussed...

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Anyone switch from Clomid to HCG?

I am a 50yo. Started seeking treatment about 18 months for Low T symptoms. Initial rounds of blood work showed borderline Low-T around 320-350. Doctor put me on 50mg Clomid monotherapy 3xWeek. Then took about 6 months of wild fluctuations of Estrogen, Thyroid levels (I am hypothyroid), and...

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Testicle atrophy even with HCG.

I am on a 50mg of test cyp M/W/F. I also take 300 IU of HCG M/W/F. The vial was reconstituted 12,000IU. This is week 3 of my protocol. I have anastrozole but I have not taken it, as I was under direction to only take it if I experience high e2 symptoms, I have not. I have not had my first...

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Distinguishing pain on HCG monotherapy

I have been on 500iu 3x week and .50mg anastrazole once a week for a month now. I have not followed up with doc since I began. Testicles were very tender at first and occassionally felt mild stabbing pains especially in my left testicle. Years ago I had an endo prescribe one big shot of test...

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HCG Intolerance/Allergy

I have been following many of the posts in the discussion forums for some time now and have now decided to finally create a profile and voice some of my concerns/issues with TRT. I am having issues with my TRT protocol and am asking if anyone can help. I am about to turn 26. Male. I have been...

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Best hCG Dose with TRT: 17-Hydroxyprogesterone Lab Test

The use of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) increases blood levels of testosterone but, surprisingly, it decreases the level of testosterone inside the testicles (Intratesticular testosterone or ITT). ITT is key for proper sperm production. This ITT decrease is due to the LH and FSH shut...

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How soon to feel a difference once HCG is added?

Hi guys, My T was increased from 280 to 290 after 5 weeks TRT without HCG. My E2 was also low. I was on 100mg/week protocol. My urologist decided to add 1000iu/week HCG to my protocol and increase T injection to 150mg/week last Tuesday. I got my first 500iu injection on Wednesday and the...

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HCG VIDEOS:

 

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"Beyond Testosterone" is a comprehensive 427-page guide authored by Nelson Vergel, a seasoned expert in the realm of hormone therapy and author of "Testosterone: A Man's Guide" and "Built to Survive." With a vibrant full-color layout and extensive illustrations, this compilation of illustrations stands as an essential resource for both clinicians and patients who enjoy learning visually.

The book extends Vergel's commitment to advancing health through understandable medical insights. He brings over thirty years of experience and a personal journey with hormone therapy following an HIV diagnosis. This guide builds on his previous works, offering updated research and practical advice grounded in real-world applications.

The Table of Contents of "Beyond Testosterone" is meticulously organized into detailed sections, each addressing key aspects of testosterone therapy:

1. Introduction
2. How to Use This Book
3. Testosterone 101
4. Testosterone in Women
5. How to Increase Testosterone Naturally
6. Benefits of Testosterone Replacement
7. Diagnosis of Hypogonadism (Low Testosterone)
8. Testosterone Treatment Options
9. Testosterone Side Effect Management
10. Testosterone and the Prostate
11. Testosterone and the Cardiovascular System
12. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)
13. Estradiol: The Other Male Hormone
14. Gynecomastia: Not a Simple Diagnosis
15. Dihydrotestosterone: Should We Be Concerned About This Testosterone Metabolite?
16. TRT-Related Acne and Hair Loss
17. TRT-Related Water Retention and High Blood Pressure
18. Erectile Dysfunction/Low Libido
19. Clinical Use of FDA-Approved Anabolic Steroids
20. Fertility and HPTA Recovery
21. Growth Hormone-Releasing Products
22. Thyroid Dysfunction: Diagnosis and Management
23. Mental Health
24. Nutritional Considerations
25. Exercise Considerations
26. Nelson's Tips for TRT Patients
27. How to Monitor TRT Lab Tests
28. La Testosterona: Información en Español
29. Expert Interviews
30. TRT Resources

"Beyond Testosterone" is more than a medical guide; it's a tribute to the collective wisdom of Vergel's ExcelMale.com community, capturing the essence of community-driven health discussion. Each topic is enhanced with QR codes for updated information and practical tips, making it a dynamic tool for anyone seeking to understand the broader implications of testosterone in health.

This book is indispensable for patients exploring testosterone therapy and clinicians aiming to enhance their therapeutic practices. It promises to empower readers with knowledge and inspire them to take charge of their health.

 

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Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (hCG) in Pain Treatment

Thanks to the revelation that Dodger baseball star Manny Ramirez used—and is now suspended for the use of—human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG), this compound is now known to the general public. It is now common knowledge that HCG can enhance athletic performance. HCG is also a new, emerging...

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Pros and cons of using TRT vs HCG for treatment low-t symptoms

Human chorionic gonadotropin treatment: a viable option for management of secondary hypogonadism and male infertility (2020) Julius Fink, Brad J. Schoenfeld, Anthony C. Hackney, Takahiro Maekawa & Shigeo Horie Abstract Introduction: Low testosterone and its symptoms is a condition affecting...

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hCG alone induces sperm production in men with hypogonadism and low LH & FSH

Therapy with human chorionic gonadotrophin alone induces spermatogenesis in men with isolated hypogonadotropic hypogonadism long-term follow-up (1992) E. VICARI, et al Summary The effects of long-term (14-120 months) hCG-treatment of 17 male patients affected by isolated hypogonadotropic...

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hCG and hMG: Factors Influencing Response

Male Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism: Factors Influencing Response to Human Chorionic Gonadotropin and Human Menopausal Gonadotropin, Including Prior Exogenous Androgens* (1985) ABSTRACT Although testosterone (T) therapy is sufficient for maturation and maintenance of secondary sex...

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How to Use hCG and Testosterone Injections at the Same Time

Today I'm going to be explaining the use of HCG together with testosterone injections (Video Transcript) Why Do Some Men on TRT Need hCG? Men with a result need testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), either by getting a prescription from a doctor for a gel, like AndroGel, Testim, Axiron...

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hCG: An alternative approach for the treatment of low testosterone

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Efficacy and safety of hCG/hMG and a GnRH pump for male adolescents with CHH

Abstract Background: Compared to adult studies, studies that involve the treatment of pediatric congenital hypogonadotropic hypogonadism (CHH) are limited and no universal treatment regimen is available. The aim of this study was to evaluate the feasibility of human chorionic gonadotropin...

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Testosterone versus hCG in Men with Low T due to Low LH

Testosterone versus hCG in Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism – Comparing Clinical Effects and Evaluating Current Practice Swashti Agarwal, MD , Duong D. Tu, MD, Paul F. Austin, MD, Michael E. Scheurer, PhD, and Lefkothea P Karaviti, MD, PhD Abstract Background. Gonadotropin therapy is not...

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Compounded HCG now banned in California?

According to this post on reddit, Defy just told their California patients that compounded HCG is no longer allowed to be shipped to or produced in California. This is nuts! Does anyone have any details? What are the relevant laws / codes here? I will write to some of my elected...

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hCG in Men with Low Testosterone and Y-Deletions

HCG therapy in azoospermic men with lower or borderline testosterone levels and the prognostic value of Y-deletion analysis in its outcome NOTE: Y chromosome microdeletion (YCM) is a family of genetic disorders caused by missing gene(s) in the Y chromosome. Many men with YCM exhibit no symptoms...

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Should I inject hCG IM or subcutaneously?

I'm confused about how to inject HCG. My prescription says to inject it intramuscular, but everything I read on this site, says it should be injected subcutaneous. Which do you guys recommend and why?

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Scott Brunner, CEO of the Alliance for Pharmacy Compounding (www.compounding.com) speaks about the current threats to people's access to affordable and customized hormone products in the U.S. and what you can do about it. The FDA is considering banning compounded estradiol, estrone, estradiol cypionate, estriol, pregnenolone, progesterone, testosterone, testosterone cypionate, and testosterone propionate and all pellet cBHT therapies. Also, under the Biologics Price Competition and Innovation Act of 2009 (BPCIA) – Protein-based drug products like hCG, FSH, and hMG that had been approved as “drugs” over 15 years ago are now considered “Biologics” and now fall under the jurisdiction of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER). These 3 compounds are gonadotropins that have been used in fertility and hormone replacement in women and men. Compounding pharmacies have been compounding urine-derived hCG, FSH, and hMG and increasing patient access to these medications for 50 years. Under the new law, compounding pharmacies are no longer allowed to make these products unless they go through a new lengthy and costly Biologic License Application (BLA). Scott also explained how proposed USP changes in "Beyond Use Dates" will increase cost and need for frequent refills for patients.

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