Weekly shots

[Whatzup]

Guys I have been on Cypionate 100mg on MWF for many months. I realize micro dosing can be better to avoid peaks and valleys but I feel most days worn out and can't sleep at night well. If I try the 100mg once a week instead could that maybe help me with energy levels and sleep?

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Guys I have been on Cypionate 100mg on MWF for many months. I realize micro dosing can be better to avoid peaks and valleys but I feel most days worn out and can't sleep at night well. If I try the 100mg once a week instead could that maybe help me with energy levels and sleep?

Do you have any labwork you can share? I don't think weekly dosing is likely to be helpful for these issues. A dose adjustment would probably be more impactful.

 

[Vince]

Guys I have been on Cypionate 100mg on MWF for many months. I realize micro dosing can be better to avoid peaks and valleys but I feel most days worn out and can't sleep at night well. If I try the 100mg once a week instead could that maybe help me with energy levels and sleep?

Some men do feel better with once weekly injections. You may be one of them. If you try it, do it for at least 12 weeks. So you could feel the full benefits.

 

[Systemlord]

I realize micro dosing can be better to avoid peaks and valleys

Large peaks and valleys are what enable me to respond to TRT, but also very frequent dosing.

 

[Whatzup]

Do you have any labwork you can share? I don't think weekly dosing is likely to be helpful for these issues. A dose adjustment would probably be more impactful.

My trough was around 670 and free to 22. My highest dose has been 150mg lowest 80. But I've never done once a week.

 

[Whatzup]

Some men do feel better with once weekly injections. You may be one of them. If you try it, do it for at least 12 weeks. So you could feel the full benefits.

Since I am doing MWF micro dosing. Can I start the once a week today and every Friday or best to start Monday since I got a dose this past MW?

 

[Vince]

Since I am doing MWF micro dosing. Can I start the once a week today and every Friday or best to start Monday since I got a dose this past MW?

If you skipped your Friday shot I would just start on Monday. Your levels would be higher than normal, but as you know in 6 weeks it will level off.

You could do 80 for the first few weeks and then move up to 100

 

[Whatzup]

If you skipped your Friday shot I would just start on Monday. Your levels would be higher than normal, but as you know in 6 weeks it will level off.

You could do 80 for the first few weeks and then move up to 100

When is best to get labs if you do once a week? I inject in the evenings.

 

[Vince]

When is best to get labs if you do once a week? I inject in the evenings.

If you are injecting Monday evening, get labs that Monday before you inject. Your lowest point for the week.

 

[Whatzup]

If you are injecting Monday evening, get labs that Monday before you inject. Your lowest point for the week.

Thanks but isn't it good to check peak too? That way if the hematocrit and e2 is raised it's because the peak.

 

[Vince]

Thanks but isn't it good to check peak too? That way if the hematocrit and e2 is raised it's because the peak.

Personally, I never check peak.. you get your hematocrit checked with your regular labs. No need to do it twice..

 

[Whatzup]

Personally, I never check peak.. you get your hematocrit checked with your regular labs. No need to do it twice..

Yes I do check HTC and everything else at the same time. I just meant peak may provide an answer as to why other values could be off.

 

[Systemlord]

Thanks but isn't it good to check peak too?

You really want to pay attention to trough levels, because you should only be concerned about not dropping too low. Ideally you want to keep your trough levels above 550 ng/dL and in cases of higher SHBG, you want to maintain higher trough levels.

 

[Whatzup]

You really want to pay attention to trough levels, because you should only be concerned about not dropping too low. Ideally you want to keep your trough levels above 550 ng/dL and in cases of higher SHBG, you want to maintain higher trough levels.

I see. Doing it MWF around 14 hours after the shot I had around 660. Is that peak or trough?

 

[gallant]

I like doing labs at peak, trough and inbetween. I like to know where I'm at at all times of my twice weekly injection cycle. I do labs every month or so and there are some good deals out there that are not too expensive. I suppose I'm a bit OCD about it all but I enjoy the process and keeping tabs on things.

 

[Systemlord]

14 hours after the shot I had around 660. Is that peak or trough?

These are peak levels, though I doubt your levels are dropping much at all dosing M/W/F.

 

[Belekas]

Everything is possible so only one way to find out. Plenty of guys where I'm from pin once a week and do fine. On the other hand lots of guys microdose and say it worked for them better. No one size fits all. But to be honest without context it's hard to say anything at all. Experiment with different protocols but make sure you give them time and manage only one variable at a time else you be chasing tale for ages changing, adding, removing stuff without giving it time to show its true colors.

p.s. a lot of folks on TRT and not are overworked and underfed if that makes sense. Some over stressed. Diet/nutrition, training, rest/sleep/recovery, same boring stuff that needs to be optimized before anything else. Sorry but had to say it

Best of luck,
Bel

 

[tareload]

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[tareload]

Tool to Assess your TT Dose Response -- Percentile Curves

Summary: Tools to estimate your individual dose response for injectable testosterone ester in comparison to a normal distribution (95 percentile confidence estimate) of adult males (Ref). Plot below shows a summary of data from (1) clinical trials gathered from the literature + (2)...

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What kind of levels to expect from 100mg weekly

I'm a new to this entire scene, started with levels of around 320, age 40, doctor started me on 100mg once a week. Curious on what type of levels I should expect to see from this? Thanks

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[Vince]

Is splitting the dose really necessary?

I’ve been on TRT for nearly 5 years and have tried everything - started at once per week, went to bi-weekly, 3x, EOD, E3D, Every day, subq / IM, AI/No AI. All the changes were to try to prevent high hematocrit and Estrogen, which are prone to run high in me. Well, every protocol ended up the...

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