Sustanon 250mg or Cipionate 100mg considering going to injectable from oral

ghce

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After many years of using oral (UNDECANOATE) and compounded creams but suffereing from poor libedo ED and increasing weight gain (carrying 20KG extra! mostly belly fat) am considering switching to injectables to provide long term elevated T levels rather than the roller coaster of short term T preparations that I have been using in the hope that I can reverse some of the damage done by these other inadequate protocols.

There are a couple of varieties of T available to me Sustanon 250mg /ml or Cipionate 100mg/ml.

As a start protocol I am thinking 100mg T split to 50mg twice weekly.

What would be the better preparation?

I am very low SHGB usually in the low to mid teens at best which I think has made all of my prior protocols less effective.

Probably I should do IM but subQ might be a way forward as well, I don't like needles and this is the main reason its taken many years to get to this stage ( more than 10) and I will likely get my MD to administer for a while till I build the skill to do so myself.

Thoughts?
 
Normally I would say to keep it simple by using cypionate. Dosing 50 mg twice a week is a common starting protocol, but I would suggest 40 mg instead to be more physiological. Subcutaneous injections are fine, and their efficacy is supported by clinical trials. But with SC injections it's preferable to keep the volumes low. So in this regard Sustanon has the edge with its higher concentration. You would only need 0.16 mL to get 40 mg, versus 0.4 mL of the cypionate you have access to. Using insulin syringes with tiny needles should make it easy to overcome your phobia. I use 0.3 cc syringes that have 31 gauge, 5/16" (8 mm) needles. Discomfort is minimal to nonexistent.
 
Thanks Cat, thats was my thinking too, had planned to do this a couple of years back but cold feet with the whole needle thing, even got to the point of getting the syringes and needles (insulin syringes) and some ampoules of Sustanon for subQ.
I take you get the T to room temp or better so that it will flow better in the thin needles?
 

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