How will I know my regiment is enough? Am I just not made for TRT?

[Vithat]

I would personally. I’d switch to 100mg every 3.5 days to start. You need a good 6+ weeks to decide if that’s an improvement.

Just share with the dr what you are thinking and be adamant about what you would like to try next. He’s probably going to go along with it as long as there is no harm in it. That’s my experience. He looked at me a little funny when I said I want to split injections day one, but he said it was my choice. He’s got a ton of clients. I think he’s seen everything.

Well I only have prescription for a vial of 200 mg/mL. You live in Houston as well? What other experiences have you had doing this and with Larry?

 

[MarkM]

Most of us have prescriptions for 200 mg/ml. That is the strength/concentration of the testosterone in the vial. So in a 10 ml vial, there are 2,000 mg/10 ml. But very few of us actually inject 200 mg in a week, especially in one injection.

When you draw into an insulin syringe (1 CC or 1 ML) all the way to the 1.0 mark that equals 200 mg. Draw up to the 0.5 mark and that is 100 mg. Draw to the 0.25 mark and that is 50 mg, etc......

Make sense?

 

[Vithat]

Most of us have prescriptions for 200 mg/ml. That is the strength/concentration of the testosterone in the vial. So in a 10 ml vial, there are 2,000 mg/10 ml. But very few of us actually inject 200 mg in a week, especially in one injection.

When you draw into an insulin syringe (1 CC or 1 ML) all the way to the 1.0 mark that equals 200 mg. Draw up to the 0.5 mark and that is 100 mg. Draw to the 0.25 mark and that is 50 mg, etc......

Make sense?

Yeah I get it. What about anastrozole? Stick to once a week? I only get bottles with 4 pills.

 

[MarkM]

I would not take any anasteozole unless you really need it.

What are you going to change your protocol to?

 

[Vithat]

I would not take any anasteozole unless you really need it.

What are you going to change your protocol to?

Switching to EOD for one. I only get 4 tabs of Anastrozole and I dont know what things are looking like. Better keep taking it to be safe than sorry.

 

[Blackhawk]

Switching to EOD for one. I only get 4 tabs of Anastrozole and I dont know what things are looking like. Better keep taking it to be safe than sorry.

if you take too much anastrozole it can crash your estradiol. Low estradiol is dangerous. You have said nothing about your prescribed dose of anastrozole. 4 tabs means nothing without knowing what the mg/ tab is. You also have not posted whether your Estradiol lab is the sensitive test, nor if you have high estradiol symptoms. The number regardless of testing methodolgy is not excessively high, and if the test was Roche non sensitive, that test tends to run high, falsely elevating the reported number, so your actual estradiol level may be significantly lower.

Taking anastrozole without the correct lab test and without symptoms is potentially asking for trouble. Taking too much anastrozole has been a VERY common problem for MANY members of this forum, and for some, anastrozole induced estradiol crash is very difficult to recover from.

The general trend in using anastrozole responsibly is to base its use entirely on sensitive lab test methodology in conjunction with actually being symptomatic of high E2. You have not stated anything to that effect.

 

[Vithat]

if you take too much anastrozole it can crash your estradiol. Low estradiol is dangerous. You have said nothing about your prescribed dose of anastrozole. 4 tabs means nothing without knowing what the mg/ tab is. You also have not posted whether your Estradiol lab is the sensitive test, nor if you have high estradiol symptoms. The number regardless of testing methodolgy is not excessively high, and if the test was Roche non sensitive, that test tends to run high, falsely elevating the reported number, so your actual estradiol level may be significantly lower.

Taking anastrozole without the correct lab test and without symptoms is potentially asking for trouble. Taking too much anastrozole has been a VERY common problem for MANY members of this forum, and for some, anastrozole induced estradiol crash is very difficult to recover from.

The general trend in using anastrozole responsibly is to base its use entirely on sensitive lab test methodology in conjunction with actually being symptomatic of high E2. You have not stated anything to that effect.

The point is that I cant get the test done anytime soon and I think it better to keep following my doctors regimen of 1mg tablet a week rather than not. I have no way of checking the methodology either.

 

[Weasel]

The point is that I cant get the test done anytime soon and I think it better to keep following my doctors regimen of 1mg tablet a week rather than not. I have no way of checking the methodology either.

I'd do just the opposite of that if it were me. I wouldn't take any, unless needed. Better safe than sorry.

 

[MarkM]

Are you still planning on injecting 200 mg per week of testosterone?

 

[bobo12345]

Well I only have prescription for a vial of 200 mg/mL. You live in Houston as well? What other experiences have you had doing this and with Larry?

Hey, i'm only chiming in because I know that practice and I *think* you might be on something similar to me which is 200mg/mL in a vial that's 5mL. My dose is .3mL twice a week which I'm adjusting to three times a week(.2mL x 3) due to SHBG issues. My 5mL vial should last me 16-ish injections or about two months worth.

The point is that I cant get the test done anytime soon and I think it better to keep following my doctors regimen of 1mg tablet a week rather than not. I have no way of checking the methodology either.

I was prescribed the same thing and I'm just going to say from experience, I did not respond well to that dose of AI and have been using 1/4th tabs until my next lab work. There are other ways, some linked on this site, that will allow for blood work to be done on your own schedule. I would hate for you to have a bad experience and have to wait weeks/months until to you see the Dr. again.

 

[Blackhawk]

The point is that I cant get the test done anytime soon and I think it better to keep following my doctors regimen of 1mg tablet a week rather than not. I have no way of checking the methodology either.

Good luck to you.

 

[BigBamBoo]

The point is that I cant get the test done anytime soon and I think it better to keep following my doctors regimen of 1mg tablet a week rather than not. I have no way of checking the methodology either.

Let us know how it turns out for you. I have a feeling things are not going to go well on that protocol.

Good luck.

 

[Vithat]

Are you still planning on injecting 200 mg per week of testosterone?

Why do you ask?

 

[Systemlord]

Why do you ask?

We are concerned it won't go well for you, it's a certainty. The 1mg AI, that doesn't look like a good outcome either. If you want to go for months feeling like you are dying, go for it.

I can tell you I over-responded to only .125mg EOD, that's about a 1/10th of a mg.

 

[Vithat]

Hey, i'm only chiming in because I know that practice and I *think* you might be on something similar to me which is 200mg/mL in a vial that's 5mL. My dose is .3mL twice a week which I'm adjusting to three times a week(.2mL x 3) due to SHBG issues. My 5mL vial should last me 16-ish injections or about two months worth.



I was prescribed the same thing and I'm just going to say from experience, I did not respond well to that dose of AI and have been using 1/4th tabs until my next lab work. There are other ways, some linked on this site, that will allow for blood work to be done on your own schedule. I would hate for you to have a bad experience and have to wait weeks/months until to you see the Dr. again.

Thanks for the anecdote! This is very helpful to me seeing how its benefited another in a similar situation. How do you cut the pills to be .25 mg though?

 

[BigBamBoo]

Another vote AGAINST an AI unless you absolutely need it.

I have very high E2...last blood test showed it at 70+...so I final broke down and took THREE doses of AI. The third dose had me in full blown panic attach at 2:00am. I truelly felt and thought I was having a heart attack.

That was taking just three, .125mg capsules.

I have now adjusted my T dose to three times a week in hopes of lowering my E2.
I am taking .40mg three times a week.

Again, good luck to your TRT journey.

Oh....the only way I have heard of making your 1mg tablets smaller is to dissolve it and use a dropper to dispense it at a lower dose.

 

[MarkM]

.......Oh....the only way I have heard of making your 1mg tablets smaller is to dissolve it and use a dropper to dispense it at a lower dose.

You can use a pill splitter and cut them in half but then you need to take a razor blade and cut them in half again to break it down to 1/4 or 0.25 mg.

 

[lowe2sucks]

Vithat beware if you crash your estradiol recovery to pre-crash can take very long time for some guys.. you will pray to return to pre crash pre AI high estradiol state if you take too much of that pure poison called arimidex/anastrozole.

 

[MarkM]

Why do you ask?

I (We) only ask because you came here looking for help and advice and we are trying to provide you that assistance and point you in the right direction. However, I believe in the old saying that "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". The horse has to choose whether or not he drinks the water.

 

[Vithat]

Vithat beware if you crash your estradiol recovery to pre-crash can take very long time for some guys.. you will pray to return to pre crash pre AI high estradiol state if you take too much of that pure poison called arimidex/anastrozole.

Im not sure what you mean. Pre-Crash? How would I know my e2 crashed? I think I have trouble discerning what that is. Especially considering that the symptoms can be any number of things affecting me.