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goga

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I am considering a TRT withdrawal to try an alternative. I saw the one month protocol. If I try the alternative for say 3 months and it does not work for me, how soon can I expect to regain on-TRT status (i.e. relieve low T symptoms)? I have been on TRT for 2 years now. I am one of those who did not achieve majority of goals with TRT (libido not great, abdominal fat more than before etc).
 
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BigBamBoo

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I would think it will depend on what the “alternative” is.

If it is a “natural” approach, then you could start back up anytime.
 

Vince

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I would also like to know what the alternative is. When I started trt, I got immediate relief. Starting with my first injection, the honeymoon was awesome.
 

goga

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I would also like to know what the alternative is. When I started trt, I got immediate relief. Starting with my first injection, the honeymoon was awesome.
Its a combination of natural and homeopathic medicine (including homeopathic potency of T and LH) which will activate my testicles and maybe even elevate T a little bit. I am not sure if I can name the medicines here. If I manage to achieve at least as much libido as I had on TRT (there was none before TRT, and just some during TRT), and manage mental issues (depression, concentration etc), than I'll be glad.
 
Its a combination of natural and homeopathic medicine (including homeopathic potency of T and LH) which will activate my testicles and maybe even elevate T a little bit. I am not sure if I can name the medicines here. If I manage to achieve at least as much libido as I had on TRT (there was none before TRT, and just some during TRT), and manage mental issues (depression, concentration etc), than I'll be glad.
If you're primary Hypo, the problem being the testicles, youre just chasing your tail with this as there's no overcoming of a testicular problem. Do you know what you were diagnosed...primary or secondary hypogonadal?
 

goga

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If you're primary Hypo, the problem being the testicles, youre just chasing your tail with this as there's no overcoming of a testicular problem. Do you know what you were diagnosed...primary or secondary hypogonadal?
I am a primary one.My Free T is just below the minimum range, LH and FSH are elevated. I tried variety of dosages. Last time I was on 85mg weekly EOD.
 

Systemlord

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Thyroid hormones if not optimal may be why you are seeing no results, there are many reasons why you are not noticing any benefit to TRT. Often working with an inexperienced doctor is a common reason for men's struggling on TRT.

I was iron deficient, this is why I struggle to find success on TRT because I was previously working with inexperienced doctors. You likely have other problems besides testosterone being low do to primary hypo.

There is no other alternative for you, testicles are on their way out.
 

Systemlord

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No, those are fine. My TSH is below 2.

TSH is a poor marker for thyroid status, thyroid hormones are more reliable than TSH. IGF-1 if low it doesn't matter how much testosterone you throw at your system, you will not see much improvement.

Something is being overlooked, it would be best if you update your thread with recent lab testing and old testing to see if you are missing something.
 

goga

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TSH is a poor marker for thyroid status, thyroid hormones are more reliable than TSH. IGF-1 if low it doesn't matter how much testosterone you throw at your system, you will not see much improvement.

Something is being overlooked, it would be best if you update your thread with recent lab testing and old testing to see if you are missing something.
What would be the starting point? As I know it free T3.
 

Systemlord

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What would be the starting point? As I know it free T3.

Free T3 is useful, but without Reverse T3 you only have half a picture. I prefer to also know where T4 sits, low normal T4 is almost never good and can be hidden with suboptimal Free T3 is plain sight.
 
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