New on TRT - Second lab results - doc switching me to nebido - double dosing?

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StevieW

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Hey all,
I'm 36 yo and wasn't experiencing a lot of other typical low T symptoms, but my libido had totally disappeared, so I got checked out at an anti aging clinic (I live in Belgium so that seems to be the only place around here anyone will take low T seriously) and tested at 296ng/dl.

I was working out hard in the gym and seeing good gains, losing a lot of fat. I already got in the best shape of my life before starting TRT, now sitting at a muscular 190lbs for my 6"0 frame. I do have a history of obesity, having weighed as much as 285lbs at my worst, but thats over 7 years ago now.

So yea, despite looking and feeling quite good, the total lack of libido bothered me. In the attached lab results you'll see in the first column my first labs from June, and the most recent labs from August.

Doc had put me on testogel (2,5% 4ml dialy) from June to September. That apparently did nothing to raise my T, and apparently totally shut down what little own production I had left. After 3 months on the gels, my T was at 330ng/dl.

You'll also see my TSH is out of whack (3,14mu/l), for which doc prescribed me T4 (L-Thyroxine 100µg daily) and since the 2nd blood test, also T3 (Cynomel 0,025mg twice daily).

So for T now she's put me on nebido (not really another option available - she won't prescribe any of the shorter esthers). I read online that standard protocol would be one 1000mg shot, then 6 weeks later a booster shot, then every 12 weeks. However she's put me on a very different protocol. Last week I got 2 shots of x 1000mg/4ml (one in each glute), and am supposed to get two more shots of the same in 8 weeks' time. Just prior to those shots, I'm due for the next labs.

Since the 2nd labs she has also put me on DHEA 20mg (to take just before bed)

It's been only two weeks since the change in protocol and I'm not noticing a huge amount of difference. Don't know if I should feel anything or if that's to be expected. I've always been pretty rock solid emotionally so no mood swings or whatever, energy is fine as usual, probably even better, worse sleep but that might also just be due to more stressy times at work recently. Libido is fractionally better but no huge changes, though I do get a return of morning wood which I almost never had anymore.

I'm very eager for some expert feedback on this protocol, since I've not seen it prescribed like this anywhere. Anything I should watch out for in particular with what to me seems like a double standard dose of nebido? Any feedback on the DHEA and my thyroid issues as well?

many thanks in advance!
 

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Sub1983

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Hey, I think I go tot the same doctor as you (Wellcare?). I'm on the same protocol as you. Seems tot work for me, but very expensive... I asked to switch to sustanon, but she didn't want to do it. I'll ask again next appointment.
 

StevieW

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Hey, I think I go tot the same doctor as you (Wellcare?). I'm on the same protocol as you. Seems tot work for me, but very expensive... I asked to switch to sustanon, but she didn't want to do it. I'll ask again next appointment.
Indeed same doc, nice to meet someone on the same protocol as well. How long have you been at it, care to share how your labs evolved since starting it? She clearly doesnt like sustanon, but to be fair I'm not really interested in jabiing so frequently so if Nebido works for me, it's ideal in my case. Glad I'm off the gels though that was a pain in the ass, and I was always worried about transferring to my kids.

Indeed costs are pretty high but if it works, I'm willing to invest in my health.

Another q that propped up, I've been having some prety rapid weight gain since starting two weeks ago (up 5kg - 11lbs). I'm working out hard and been eating right, like before. Getting a bit soft around the edges, but not like I get fat, pumps in the gym are unreal these days. What was your experience on weight gain (if any)?
 

Sub1983

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I started on gels but they did almost nothing and i didn't like these risk of transfering to my kids. Total T was about 350.
I've been on nebido for almost a year. Started on 1 nebido every 8 weeks. Total T was 750 at week 6 and 550 at week 8.
I switched to 2x nebido recently, I have a new appointment half november to discuss bloodwork.
I haven't gained or lost weight, but look much leaner.

I started going to the doctor because my energy and recuparation was very bad. I thaibox 3x week and I needed at least 2 days to recover from training and had zero energy. Now i can train almost every day if I wanted and energy and recovery are great.
 

StevieW

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Small update and other Q that popped up, a little over two weeks after my first nebido shots.

Anyone else experience changes in skin tone starting TRT? I had people commenting I looked tanned (weather has been pretty crap so no natural sunlight lol) and I do also notice a slightly darker complexion myself (I'm caucasian).

Also a bit of blushing for no particular reason. I read this might be sign of high oestradiol levels?

Am not experiencing any other symptoms atm. Actually getting sex drive back even, morning wood every day now.
 
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