Podcast Transcript Summary: "Exploring Men's Health Solutions with Shaun Noorian"
Host IntroductionNelson Vergel:
Hello everyone, Nelson Vergel here with ExcelMale.com and DiscountedLabs.com. I’m excited to have my good friend Shaun Noorian join us today. Shaun is the CEO and founder of Empower Pharmacy, the largest compounding pharmacy in the world. I’ve known Shaun for over 15 years, and he’s here to share his expertise on medications for erectile dysfunction (ED), premature ejaculation, and more. Welcome, Shaun!
Shaun Noorian:Thanks, Nelson. It’s great to be here. I’m excited to talk about these medications and how compounding pharmacies provide tailored solutions to improve health, performance, and quality of life.
Shaun’s Journey into Compounding Pharmacy
Nelson:Shaun, tell us about your journey into this field. What led you to start Empower Pharmacy?
Shaun:
Sixteen years ago, I was diagnosed with low testosterone at age 25. My doctor sent me to a compounding pharmacy for treatment, and the experience changed my life. Inspired by that, I became a licensed pharmacy technician and started Empower Pharmacy to deliver high-quality, affordable medications with excellent service.
Using my engineering background, I introduced manufacturing efficiencies that helped Empower grow into one of the largest compounding pharmacies in the U.S. We’re now an FDA-registered outsourcing facility, supplying medications to patients, providers, and institutions.
Exploring Men's Health Solutions
Nelson:Let’s dive into the treatments available for men’s health issues like ED and premature ejaculation.
Shaun:
Absolutely! Here’s an overview of the most common solutions:
1. Intracavernosal Injections (ICIs)
- Bimix: Combines papaverine and phentolamine to relax muscles and increase blood flow. It’s effective but can cause priapism (erections lasting over 4 hours). Providers test dosages in-office to ensure safety.
- Trimix: Adds prostaglandin to Bimix for stronger effects. It’s the first-line injectable for ED.
- Quadmix: Includes atropine sulfate for patients who don’t respond to Trimix.
2. Oral Medications
- Sildenafil (Viagra): Available as traditional tablets or fast-dissolving oral disintegrating tablets (ODTs) for quicker absorption.
- Tadalafil (Cialis): Known for its longer half-life, offering up to 36 hours of effectiveness.
- Combination Therapies:
- Sildenafil or tadalafil with apomorphine to boost libido.
- Sildenafil with oxytocin to address psychological and physical barriers.
- Tadalafil with tramadol to help with premature ejaculation.
3. Hormonal Therapies
- Cabergoline: Lowers prolactin, a hormone that can cause ED and gynecomastia (breast tissue growth).
- Oxytocin: The "love hormone" improves bonding and arousal, especially for psychological ED. It’s available as sublingual tablets or nasal sprays for faster absorption.
Practical Advice for Providers
Nelson:How can doctors unfamiliar with compounded medications learn to prescribe them?
Shaun:
Doctors can:
- Contact Us: Our pharmacists provide guidance on prescribing.
- Attend Conferences: Events like the Sexual Medicine Society of North America offer valuable insights.
- Use Online Resources: Our website includes product details, mechanisms of action, and contraindications.
Beyond ED: Comprehensive Men’s Health Solutions
Nelson:Let’s highlight other areas Empower Pharmacy covers.
Shaun:
Empower provides solutions for:
- Hair Loss and Acne: Managing androgenic effects of testosterone.
- Fertility: Combining testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) with HCG or FSH to maintain sperm production.
- Prostate Health: Medications for BPH and other concerns.
- Weight Management: Options for weight loss and long-term management.
- Wellness: Supplements like antioxidants, B vitamins, and amino acids to enhance energy and recovery.
Closing Remarks
Nelson:Thanks, Shaun! This was an incredible overview. To our listeners:
- Subscribe to the Excel Male YouTube channel.
- Visit ExcelMale.com for resources like a free 20-page guide on ED treatments.
- Use DiscountedLabs.com for affordable blood tests.
- Check out my new book, Beyond Testosterone, now on Amazon.
Shaun:
Thank you, Nelson. Looking forward to our next discussion!
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By Nelson Vergel | B.S. Chemical Engineering, MBA | Founder, ExcelMale.com | 34+ years on TRT | NIH and FDA advisory panel service | Author: Testosterone: A Man's Guide, Beyond Testosterone, The Peptide Consensus
Curated By Nelson Vergel | ExcelMale.com | Updated July 2026
ExcelMale Consensus: Standard Viagra and Cialis fail or become intolerable for a large share of men over time, and that is not the end of the road. Compounding pharmacies make oral dissolving tablets, troches, drug combinations, and penile injections (Trimix, Bimix, Quadmix) that work when off-the-shelf pills do not. The practical rule from two decades in this community: step up in order (oral PDE5, then combination orals, then injections), start injections at a tiny test dose under a trained provider, and never re-dose an injection the same night.
Key Takeaways
- Compounded ED options give you a ladder to climb when standard sildenafil or tadalafil stops working or causes side effects like headache, back pain, or nasal congestion.
- Oral dissolving tablets (ODTs) and troches absorb through the mouth lining and can act faster than a swallowed pill.
- Penile injections (Trimix, Bimix, Quadmix) are the most effective non-surgical treatment and also the ones that demand the most training. Priapism is the main risk.
- About 4% of men develop priapism after an in-office injection, and it recurs in roughly a third of them within a year, so dosing discipline matters.
- Some ED is driven by high prolactin, and one cabergoline tablet a week can correct it. Most doctors never check.
Roughly a third of men stop responding to Viagra or Cialis within a few years, and plenty more quit because of side effects they never signed up for. If that is you, compounded ED medications are the reason you have a next move instead of a dead end. A compounding pharmacy can make the same active ingredients in faster-absorbing forms, blend two or three drugs into one dose, and produce penile injections that work when nothing swallowed does. This is the menu Shawn Nurian, founder of Empower Pharmacy, walked through on the ExcelMale podcast, and it is wider than most men (and most doctors) realize.
What Compounded Oral ED Options Exist Beyond Standard Viagra and Cialis?
The four PDE5 inhibitors (sildenafil, tadalafil, vardenafil, avanafil) all work the same way. They relax smooth muscle and let blood fill the two chambers inside the penis. What differs is timing and tolerability. Sildenafil has a half-life near 4 hours. Vardenafil sits around 4 to 6 hours with a side-effect profile some men tolerate better than sildenafil. Tadalafil runs about 17.5 hours, which is why it earned the "weekend" reputation.
A compounding pharmacy changes the delivery, not the molecule. The most common request Empower sees is the oral dissolving tablet (ODT), a tablet that breaks down in under a minute. Placed under the tongue, some of the drug absorbs through the mouth lining straight into the bloodstream instead of waiting on your stomach. A troche does something similar. It is a wax-like lozenge you park between cheek and gum for slow buccal absorption. Men who dislike swallowing pills, or who want a quicker onset, tend to prefer these.
What About Combining Sildenafil or Tadalafil With Other Drugs?
This is where compounding earns its keep. A pharmacy can put a PDE5 inhibitor in the same dose as a second agent that targets arousal rather than blood flow.
Sildenafil or tadalafil with oxytocin pairs blood-flow help with the brain side of arousal. Oxytocin is the pituitary hormone tied to bonding and connection, and it shows up as a compounded option for men whose ED has a psychological component. For a man whose block to getting an erection is emotional rather than vascular, oxytocin adds a central arousal effect that a blood-flow drug alone does not provide.
Sildenafil or tadalafil with apomorphine, a dopaminergic drug, aims at the same problem from a different direction by nudging dopamine to raise arousal. Tadalafil with phentolamine (the vasodilator also found in the injections below) stacks two blood-flow mechanisms for men who do not respond well to a PDE5 inhibitor alone.
Sildenafil with testosterone in a troche is used about 30 minutes before sex so both have time to take effect, with testosterone supporting libido while sildenafil supports the erection. A 2021 meta-analysis in JAMA Network Open found combination approaches often outperform a single agent, which is the clinical logic behind these formulas.
What Are Trimix, Bimix, and Quadmix, and When Do You Step Up to Injections?
When PDE5 pills stop working, or the side effects (headache, nausea, the rare blue-tinted vision) become intolerable, the next rung is intracavernosal injection therapy, or ICI. You inject a tiny volume into the side of the penis, into the corpora cavernosa, the two blood-holding chambers. The drug relaxes that tissue directly, so it works even in men who no longer respond to oral medication.
These come in three strengths. Trimix is the workhorse and makes up roughly 90% of what Empower dispenses. It combines papaverine and phentolamine (both vasodilators and smooth-muscle relaxers) with prostaglandin. Bimix drops the prostaglandin, leaving papaverine and phentolamine. Providers usually move a man from Trimix to Bimix when the prostaglandin causes injection pain, since some men feel that burn and some never do. Quadmix is Trimix plus atropine sulfate, reserved for men who have become less responsive to Trimix and need extra effect.
ICI is the most effective non-surgical ED treatment there is. It has also saved marriages, and I mean that literally. I have watched men who had written off their sex lives get erections like they were 20 again. The trade-off is that injections demand the most education of anything in this field. Like all ED, the underlying problem is progressive, so a man may eventually stop responding to injections too. When that happens, the last option is a penile prosthesis.
Why Does the Starting Dose Matter So Much?
Because too much causes priapism. The starting dose for a man without advanced ED is genuinely tiny, around 0.05 cc, roughly a drop, and the provider titrates up slowly from there toward a ceiling near half a cc. Most men never need more than about 0.12 cc drawn in an insulin syringe. Papaverine is the ingredient most responsible for a prolonged erection, so dosing it correctly is the whole game.
This is why borrowing your buddy's Trimix is a bad idea that usually ends in the ER. His dose is not your dose. A trained urologist or provider gives a test dose in the office first, often checks for venous leakage with ultrasound, and teaches you to titrate. Follow that instruction and ICI is very safe. One firm rule from this community: never inject a second time the same night if the first dose underdelivers. The drug accumulates, and a second shot is how a soft response turns into a four-hour emergency.
What Is Priapism and How Do You Treat an Erection That Lasts Too Long?
Priapism is an erection lasting longer than 4 hours, and it is the reason all the dosing caution above exists. It happens in a minority of ICI users, and a 2024 analysis in the International Journal of Impotence Research put the rate near 4% after an in-office injection, with recurrence around 32% within the first year. Younger men and those with mood or behavioral conditions were at higher risk.
The danger is oxygen. In ischemic priapism, blood gets trapped in the penis and stops flowing. Once it loses oxygen it starts to coagulate, and trapped, clotting blood is hard for the body to clear. If the tissue goes without oxygen long enough it begins to die, and that can cause permanent ED. This is why 4 hours is the line where you act.
Treatment goes in order. First-line at home is often pseudoephedrine, an oral decongestant that can help reduce a stubborn erection. If a provider has given you a vial of compounded phenylephrine, that is next. Phenylephrine is a vasoconstrictor, the opposite of the drugs that caused the erection, and it is injected into the same chambers to bring the erection down (detumescence). Commercial phenylephrine only comes in a 10 mg/mL strength, which is too strong for this use, so pharmacies compound a diluted version near one-tenth that concentration. If neither works, go to the hospital fast, where the erection can be drained or treated surgically. Do exactly what your provider tells you and do not wait it out.
Can High Prolactin Cause ED, and Does Cabergoline Fix It?
Yes, and this one gets missed constantly. Prolactin is the hormone behind breast-milk production in women, and men carry a little of it too. When it runs high in a man it can cause erectile dysfunction, nipple tenderness, and breast tissue growth that can be mistaken for gynecomastia.
High prolactin is not common, which is why it is not a routine first check. But there is a specific situation where it earns a look: a man on testosterone who is not responding the way he should within 3 to 4 months, especially if his baseline testosterone was very low. That is when a sharp doctor checks prolactin. You can also order it yourself through DiscountedLabs.com without a doctor visit. If it comes back high, one cabergoline tablet a week is usually enough to bring it down. A randomized, placebo-controlled study in the International Journal of Impotence Research found cabergoline improved erectile function, desire, and satisfaction in men with psychogenic ED while normalizing hormone levels. Correct the prolactin and the ED driven by it often resolves.
What Treats ED and Premature Ejaculation at the Same Time?
Plenty of men have both a soft erection and a short fuse, and there is a compounded answer for that pairing: tadalafil with tramadol. Tramadol is a pain medication, but at a low dose it delays ejaculation. Combine it with tadalafil and you address the erection and the timing in one dose.
The evidence supports the concept. A 2023 randomized, placebo-controlled trial found on-demand sildenafil plus tramadol lengthened time to ejaculation more than either drug alone. Two points to know. The tramadol dose here is much lower than what is used for pain, so most men will not feel pain relief, only the ejaculation delay. And tramadol is a controlled substance, so it needs a prescription and is limited to about a 90-day supply. For a man juggling ED and rapid ejaculation, this combination can be a strong single solution.
Frequently Asked Questions
Are compounded ED medications FDA approved?
Compounded medications are not FDA-approved products, because compounding tailors a formula to an individual prescription rather than mass-producing a fixed drug. The active ingredients (sildenafil, tadalafil, papaverine, phentolamine) are the same ones in approved drugs. Empower also runs an FDA-registered outsourcing facility that makes medications for clinics and hospitals under stricter oversight. Use a licensed pharmacy and a prescribing provider.How do I get a doctor to prescribe Trimix or a compounded formula?
Many providers learn these options from patient forums like ExcelMale, from conferences such as the Sexual Medicine Society of North America, or from continuing-education courses. A provider can also call a compounding pharmacy directly and speak with a medical affairs pharmacist about formulas, dosing, contraindications, and interactions. If your doctor is unfamiliar with compounding, that phone call is often the fastest path.Which PDE5 inhibitor has the fewest side effects?
It is individual. Some men get every side effect on tadalafil (back pain, heartburn, sinus congestion, headache) and tolerate vardenafil cleanly. Others do the reverse. Vardenafil is chemically close to sildenafil but causes fewer side effects for some men. The takeaway: if one pill does not agree with you, do not quit on the whole category. Try another.Is Trimix safe to use at home?
It is safe when a trained provider sets your starting dose and teaches you to titrate, and dangerous when you guess. Start at the tiny test dose your provider gives you, escalate slowly, and never inject twice in one session. Keep a priapism plan ready before your first shot.Do these medications treat the cause of ED or just the symptom?
Most treat the symptom so you can have sex now, which for a man with vascular or age-related ED is the practical goal. The exception is prolactin-driven ED, where cabergoline addresses the actual cause. This is why testing (testosterone, prolactin, and a workup with your provider) matters alongside treatment.Conclusion
One thing the podcast made obvious that most men never hear: the reason you have options today is that a compounding pharmacy can build around your specific failure point. Ten or fifteen years ago, if Viagra gave you a splitting headache, you were mostly out of luck. Now vardenafil, an ODT, a troche, a combination formula, or an injection is a prescription away. If a pill stopped working or made you miserable, that is a signal to climb the ladder, not to give up. Start by reading the real-world dosing experience in our two-decade Trimix guide, and if your erections are fine but desire is the problem, what to do about erectile dysfunction is the next thing to read.
Key References
- Ziegelmann M, et al. Evaluating the management trends for priapism and assessing the risk of priapism after in-office intracavernosal injections: a cross-sectional analysis. International Journal of Impotence Research. 2024. Evaluating the management trends for priapism and assessing the risk of priapism after in-office intracavernosal injections: a cross-sectional analysis - International Journal of Impotence Research
- Nickel M, Moleda D, Loew T, Rother W, Pedrosa Gil F. Cabergoline treatment in men with psychogenic erectile dysfunction: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study. International Journal of Impotence Research. 2007. Cabergoline treatment in men with psychogenic erectile dysfunction: a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study - International Journal of Impotence Research
- Combined on-demand sildenafil citrate and tramadol hydrochloride is an effective and safe treatment for premature ejaculation: a randomized placebo-controlled double-blind clinical trial. Journal of International Medical Research. 2023. https://doi.org/10.1080/20905998.2023.2287869
- Prospective comparison of tadalafil 5 mg, dapoxetine 30 mg, and the combination of both in the treatment of premature ejaculation. Arab Journal of Urology. 2023. https://doi.org/10.1080/20905998.2023.2277081
- Zhao C, et al. Assessment of Combination Therapies vs Monotherapy for Erectile Dysfunction: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis. JAMA Network Open. 2021. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2776549
- Which PDE5 inhibitor is the most effective in the treatment of erectile dysfunction: a network meta-analysis. Andrology. 2024. https://doi.org/10.1111/andr.13642
- Burnett AL, et al. Erectile Dysfunction: AUA Guideline. Journal of Urology. 2018. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.juro.2018.05.004
- De Rosa M, et al. Six Months of Treatment with Cabergoline Restores Sexual Potency in Hyperprolactinemic Males. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism. 2004;89(2):621. https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/89/2/621/2840576
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Medical Disclaimer
This article is for educational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider before starting or modifying any hormone therapy or medical treatment.
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