HCG causing water retention? on PCT after Sustanon

[7captain7]

I have done a 12 week cycle of Sustanon at 500mg per week and it has now been 1 week since my last injection of 250 mg (I was doing two shots each at 250mg per week).

Started taking HCG at 1500 iu E3D from Friday last week and now noticing water retention. Especially in face and stomach. My face changes overnight and the face is also flushed and red.

I am thinking of adding Aromasin in order to reduce the bloat. Would it be a viable option? However, I am aware that HCG increases intratesticular estrogen, so AI might not work for it.

What should I do? Please help me out

 

[fifty]

Why is your hcg dose so high? Consider 500iu 2x or 3x per week.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Water Retention from HCG

HCG and Water rentention

Water Retention Caused by Testosterone May Have Nothing to Do with Estradiol

 

[Vince Carter]

1500iu E3D is too much, more typical (TRT) dose is as Fifty stated.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Are you planning to use HCG alone from now on, or are you using as PCT?

 

[7captain7]

Why is your hcg dose so high? Consider 500iu 2x or 3x per week.

The dosage I am using is supported by studies and literature for recovery of HPTA after AAS use

 

[7captain7]

Anabolic steroid induced hypogonadism treated with human chorionic gonadotropin

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/bc2b/f05095df4eab54d0881f2790a9a9fd0db021.pdf

Please see the dosages used!

 

[7captain7]

Are you planning to use HCG alone from now on, or are you using as PCT?

HCG is my pct to be honest.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

You should have waited at least 3 weeks to start PCT. You had high T when you started high HCG dose. That is why you have water retention. Just cut down the HCG to 1000 IU three times per week for 3 weeks and switch to clomiphene at 25 mg for 3 weeks and then 12.5 for another 3 weeks. Run a panel like this one after being off everything for 8-10 weeks:

Post PCT Panel

Post your results.

 

[fifty]

Anabolic steroid induced hypogonadism treated with human chorionic gonadotropin

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/bc2b/f05095df4eab54d0881f2790a9a9fd0db021.pdf

Please see the dosages used!

This is a case study of 1 person from 1977.

For pct try 300-400iu per day. ~1500iu doses will more than likely bring on your sides.

 

[7captain7]

You should have waited at least 3 weeks to start PCT. You had high T when you started high HCG dose. That is why you have water retention. Just cut down the HCG to 1000 IU three times per week for 3 weeks and switch to clomiphene at 25 mg for 3 weeks and then 12.5 for another 3 weeks. Run a panel like this one after being off everything for 8-10 weeks:

Post PCT Panel

Post your results.

Nelson, Sir, thank you. When I take HCG 1000iu for 3 weeks, would adding Aromasin at 12.5mg EOD help? Do you think Clomid is necessary? There are studies that show that Clomid fails to recover HPTA after discontinuation? The study I posted above used HCG only and the young man recovered.

My only issues with HCG is water retention

 

[7captain7]

This is a case study of 1 person from 1977.

For pct try 300-400iu per day. ~1500iu doses will more than likely bring on your sides.

It is from 1990's. And there are other studies where HCG only achieved recovery and the doses were fairly high (1500iu-5000 iu 2-3 times per week).

 

[fifty]

1977 1997 hah. I failed that eye test. All I’m saying homey is there’s multiple roads to Rome especially if you’re having sides. Consider these:

Coming off TRT- Defy HPTA Reset Protocol

Getting Off Testosterone or Anabolics? You May Want to Read this HPTA protocol

 

[7captain7]

1977 1997 hah. I failed that eye test. All I’m saying homey is there’s multiple roads to Rome especially if you’re having sides. Consider these:

Coming off TRT- Defy HPTA Reset Protocol

Getting Off Testosterone or Anabolics? You May Want to Read this HPTA protocol

Thank you Fifty! I will those for sure!


Would Aromasin be able to help with the water retention though?

 

[Vince Carter]

I would defer to Aromasin over Anastrozole if I thought the E problem was largely originating in the testes, In fact I did do that exact thing and in the end I think Aromasin worked better for me than Anastrozole. I think a suicide AI like this would possibly work better in that scenario.

 

[7captain7]

I would defer to Aromasin over Anastrozole if I thought the E problem was largely originating in the testes, In fact I did do that exact thing and in the end I think Aromasin worked better for me than Anastrozole. I think a suicide AI like this would possibly work better in that scenario.

Thanks Vince! Did Aromasin help you with the bloat and facial water retention when taking HCG?

 

[Vince Carter]

I had other E problems than bloat and water retention

 

[7captain7]

I had other E problems than bloat and water retention

Maybe Nelson is right when he said that I still had high T levels which could be responsible for water retention, but not HCG as such. I fear AI's and dropping my E too low