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    Female PCT after HRT Resources

    Hi all, my wife (33) was on HRT to the tune of 7mg Test P pinned EOD for about 18 months or so. She was at the absolute bottom of the TT and FT range when tested prior to HRT. While things were good on this protocol, she had some wild hair that made her feel it was best to stop. To my surprise...
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    Came off TRT 2 years ago: my balls are much smaller than before and decreased fertility, but hormone levels are good. How can I get back to normal?

    I was on a low dose of Tesy Cyp for years…about 110mg a week. I tried using HCG while I was on, but couldn’t ever get the E2 response controlled, and it also skyrocketed my T levels as well. So I just used test cyp on its own…nothing else. I eventually wanted to stop TRT. I took HCG at 500iu...
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    PCT Question: Enclo/HCG

    Hello, I am in the middle of a restart. Last test cyp shot was 15 days ago and have been taking 500IU eod HCG since the last shot. I plan to stop HCG on the 21st day and start 25mg of enclo for 8 weeks. Has anyone just started taking the enclo the last week of HCG to get a head start or does it...
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    PCT regiment coming off 2 years TRT

    I am 44 years old and have been on TRT for approx 2 years (from initial 150MG down to current 70MG weekly for 2 years). I find that I have too much stress, anger, agitation and anxeity while on TRT. I have tried everything lowering the dose, taking AI, switch from pinning once per week to 2x per...
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    Post-cycle therapy is linked to fewer withdrawal symptoms from anabolic steroid use: A survey of 470 AAS users.

    Introduction The world of sports and bodybuilding often brings to the forefront the use of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS), substances that can enhance performance and muscle growth. However, the use of these steroids is not without risks. This article delves into the effects of AAS on men's...
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    What else to use for PCT?

    I took both clomid and enclomid and I could not tolerate them due to their visual side effects. What else can I take for PCT?
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    Does anyone have experience coming off hcg?

    I recently stopped taking testosterone after 8 weeks! Didn't feel good on it and thought I would be better coming off and doing what I can to optimize own levels as I've seen decent levels before without trt even though they have been low as well! Been off it nearly a month (was on 75 then...
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    Coming off TRT cold turkey after only three weeks

    Hello all, I was on a protocol of 150 mg cyp (50mg 3x / week ) and 500 iu hcg for approx 3 weeks. After the third week, i decided to stop due to my age (22m) and the anxiety it was causing. I’m currently 18 days out since last pin. Feeling alright except for being a bit more tired, but my most...
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    Coming off TRT with least amount of acne

    So after about 6 years on TRT (Im 47), Im thinking about coming off. I'm someone who was never crazy low in the first place, I just wanted to see if I would get a bit of a boost. The only boost I've seen is in muscle mass. When I weight the pros and cons, I'm thinking it might be time to come...
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    Toremifene Citrate

    I m in the process of restarting after TRT , but Clomid is a non-starter for me and Nolvadex also gave me libido issues . I want to choose Toremifene Citrate as the SERM post HCG but my doctor says it may not be available in pharmacies . Does anybody know if that is true ? Is there a pharmacy...
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    Injury Recovery and PCT

    Hello, Thanks to the group as I've learned a lot. I have a unique situation where I had a neck and shoulder injury that left me disabled for a period of time. My quality of life was greatly diminished and not showing any significant improvement. I was even seeing doctors at the Cleveland Clinic...
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    Done with TRT and recovered within two weeks

    I pulled the plug on my TRT journey after a little more than 3 months. I was enjoying some benefits in the area of energy, mood, and recovery/gains. However: The hair loss was out of control. I went from a full, thick head of hair before I started to visibly thinned hair that shows my scalp...
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    Which "part" of the HPTA is the hardest to "turn on" during PCT?

    I am getting off testosterone after two years (if you want back story, you can read my previous posts, and I'm unable to perform any conventional PCT as I cannot tolerate SERMs. I have, however, been entertaining the idea of using GnRH or hCG as a way to "prime" the body before coming off TRT...
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    Restoring testicular size with FSH and HCG

    Hi guys, I have a question that I haven’t ever seen properly answered. I decided a month ago to contact Defy and attempt to improve my fertility. I made some unfortunate choices when I was younger, using testosterone and pro hormones like superdrol for excessively long periods of time. I...
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    Stopping TRT - HPTA Restart Update After 1 Month

    Hello, I've been on TRT for the last two years and wanted to try to get off it for fertility reasons and a few more. While on TRT I've been taking 100mg / week T enanthatate and 900 IU / week HCG. Since I've been taking HCG during the whole time while on TRT for the PCT I decided to skip the...
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    SERM "PCT" Alternatives

    I'm strongly considering getting off TRT after being on 1.5 years and worsening my health tremendously. Since I'm suffering from an abundance of low E2 symptoms which I would probably exacerbate majorly if I were to use SERMs. Are there any other good alternatives? Anything that antagonizes...
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    What to expect after PCT?

    After 6 years of self diagnosed TRT, I'm in the final stages of coming off. I just finished 10 weeks of clomiphene citrate and am wondering what to expect now that PCT is over. Here is PCT bloods (Quest diagnostics) around 6 weeks into PCT: Will testosterone sharply decline below baseline now...
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    What to expect post PCT?

    After 6 years of self diagnosed TRT, I'm in the final stages of coming off. I just finished 10 weeks of clomiphene citrate and am wondering what to expect now that PCT is over. Here is PCT bloods (Quest diagnostics) around 6 weeks into PCT: Will testosterone sharply decline below baseline now...
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    Post-PCT 2 months, and I still have NO libido at all. {Labs posts}

    LH cut off. It’s 3.1 (1.5-9.3 scale) I’m about 2 months post-PCT, and taking nothing at all anymore. My libido is still SO low…almost nonexistent. Not even close to how it was before I started TRT. And when I orgasm, it is still just a dribble. Not much volume to it at all. But these labs all...
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    Failed PCT?

    started TrT 2 years ago with TT of 345 and normal LH. Was on HCG for a month prior to last pin and a week after. Been on a month of 25mg enclo and these are my results. Do I have any chance at recovery, or is this the best I am going to get? Thanks.
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    Triptorelin to Restore HPTA

    Triptorelin is used clinically to produce castration by suppressing LH and FSH, being agonistic but constant stimulation produces the opposite effect. It has been claimed that a single dose of 100 mcg would be fine to restore HPTA. I would like to have some input on this...
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    12.5mg Clomid enough

    31 years old started self administering trt in June 2016 (Almost 6 years ago). Shouldn't have started TRT looking back at lab value I got from just doing one blood test (that was after a bad nights sleep). ~450ng/dL with above average Free T cause my SHBG is lowish (wasn't measured on this lab...
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    HCG Dosage for pre PCT kickstart

    I'm on day 4 of using 300IU everyday of ovidac HCG. The plan is to do this for 2 weeks then start clomid. is 300IU enough for kickstart before the PCT begins? What dosage should I use?
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    Restarting natural production

    I just came back from a week long vacation where I skipped a weeks worth (2) of injections for the first time since starting self TRT of 5 years. Here is what the PCT plan: 1) 5 days after last Test E injection start protocol. 2) HCG 500IU per day for 2 weeks. 3) Then, 25mg Clomid for 1...
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    PCT plan

    There are a lot of different protocols I am finding about coming off TRT. I wish there was a straight forward plan. If you know of a good one please share with me. Here is what I plan so far: 1) 5 days after last Test E injection start protocol. 2) HCG 500IU per day for 2 weeks. 3) Then, 25mg...
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    PCT Advice

    So here I am again...let's just say I'm a living breathing definition of insanity. I have been jumping on and off the TRT train for the last three years or so hoping for a different outcome each time... I jump on... experience sides, adjust my dosage and injection protocol...but in the end I...
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    25M - Going back on TRT?

    Hey, I'm only 25 but about a year ago I started complaining of fatigue, low motivation, mood, lower sex drive, etc and bloodwork showed low testosterone (~220). I repeated this bloodwork twice (once more showing ~220 and one normal test around 540), and basis my symptoms elected to try trt. In...
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    Getting ready to stop TRT.... What do I need to know?

    Ok, guys I am coming to the end of the journey of TRT... I have been on since 2010 and I never ever felt optimal, always feeling "meh", libido "meh", sleep horrible, up and down E2/DHT and now thinning hair (yay!)... I'm a low SHBG guy and I have been on Test Cyp and Prop variation of dosing...
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    HCG-only PCT? Don’t I need Clomid?

    Decided I’m done with TRT. Don’t think I should’ve been on it in the first place. Before I hopped on, my lowest total T was only 370 and my Free Test was 25.1, the literal highest end of the range. It’s created just as many issues for me as it’s solved, so I’m done. Defy is helping me PCT, and...
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    How long should I expect fertility to return after PCT?

    been on TRT for about a year, got off for TRT purposes and now on Enclomiphene 25 mg a day, 5 weeks so far, wondering ig anyone has personal experiences on getting off TRT for fertility, how long did it take for you to succeed and get your partner pregnant?
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    When doing a PCT. Does tamoxofin have to be used. ? .. can I just run chlomid and HCG
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