What is Optimal Estradiol Range for Libido/Erection

[Appassionato]

YOu are the one embarrassing yourself. You can easily find a lot of studies where low SHBG is associated with obesity, metabolic syndrome and higher BMI

One do you think I have to prove something?

You are the one claiming what are supraphysilogical doses, high e2 is bad and whatever crap that to a new TRT user like me seems strange. Thankfully now there are better resources to learn about TRT

It has been discussed many times in this forum. The more androgens you inject, the lower your SHBG will go, because there is not much left to bind to the high amount of androgens you're throwing in.
So in a TRT context, your statement is the yet another stupid comments you made. Along with "when T plummet, E2 rises" and "daily injections will lower your E2".

I'm 88 kg, 179 cm, 10-12% body fats (depending on the season) heavy weights 5 times a week, and my SHBG has been measured 25 at peak and around 35 at through. The only time my SHBG was in the 40s was when my T was 200 ng/dL and my body fats 16%.
Guess why?
You're telling me yours is higher because you're leaner than me?

Please cut down this non-sense and get out of here, since you have better resources to learn about TRT. You started getting annoying.

 

[Cataceous]

I talk to you about lab ranges

Lab ranges are based on studies like that one. In the same study, one standard deviation above the highest testosterone, 667 ng/dL, is about 880 nd/dL. Two standard deviations over would be about 1,100 ng/dL. Statistically, this means about 98% of the population falls below 1,100 ng/dL. Go out one more standard deviation to about 1,300 ng/dL and only 0.135% of the—young—male population is expected to have higher levels.

Edit: Now that attachments are working again I'm including the study results showing +/- 1 standard deviation:

 

[Charliebizz]

Guys at what point are you going to stop feeding into this bs. He “knows” 3 people. And “thinks” they feel good. And 10 years ago normal tt was 1400. Just stop responding to him

 

[Gman86]

E2 in the 40s for me was hit or miss.. in the 90s it was basically impossible to maintain. I’ve started taking anastrozole .5mg twice a week, and haven’t had to take any viagra. I’ll what the new number is, but I’ll know in a couple days when the results come in. I do know in the 90s I felt awful. Horrible water retention.. hot flashes.. moody/cranky. I feel much better right now. I also stopped taking 200 mg test cyp once every 2 weeks and started doing 50mg twice a week. I’d like to stop the anastrozole for a while and see if I still feel good

Do you know what your SHBG level is?

 

[Vonko1988]

Guys at what point are you going to stop feeding into this bs. He “knows” 3 people. And “thinks” they feel good. And 10 years ago normal tt was 1400. Just stop responding to him

I never said I know only 3 people, I know 10s of guys letting their estrogen go where it will go, some are in the 40s, som 50s, 60, 80s, some above 100, all of them doing daily shots and having zero issues.

You the people in this thread here seem to have issues and complains, look at the title of the thread.

So Im leaving you good luck micromanaging stuff and chasing crappy lab ranges..

 

[Appassionato]

Guys at what point are you going to stop feeding into this bs. He “knows” 3 people. And “thinks” they feel good. And 10 years ago normal tt was 1400. Just stop responding to him

I'm allergic to stupidity. I can't help it.

So Im leaving you good luck micromanaging stuff and chasing crappy lab ranges..

Come back when we will have to collect the pieces.

 

[Financematt05]

Do you know what your SHBG level is?

I do not. It was like pulling teeth getting my doc to order the correct labs.. I should know soon though

 

[Financematt05]

What the heck does that mean?

You are here on Excel Male already. This forum right here. This IS Excel Male

Sorry! I meant Defy medical! Idk why I typed excelmale

 

[Blackhawk]

Sorry! I meant Defy medical! Idk why I typed excelmale

LOL! OK, No worries.

 

[Financematt05]

Do you know what your SHBG level is?

Results just came in! 29.7

 

[madman]

YOu are the one sounding like a broken record claiming the same shit over and over again, telling me I have sleep issues due to my high levels, provided you have sleep issues as well with no so high levels Isnt that funny?

I shot a screenshot but this forum gives server error when trying to upload a pic...is this normal?

https://imgur.com/IDw7pbP

If you feel well overall and your health markers are in check than I see no issue with you running higher TT levels and if you are injecting daily than your peak--->trough will be much less drastic.

Do understand that your FT levels are much higher than 34.4 ng/dL as the calculated method used on your lab work was the outdated and inaccurate linear law-of-mass action Vermeulen method.

You SHBG of 41.77 nmol/L is far from being high and with a TT 1450 ng/dL than your FT would be almost double the top end of the reference range.

The only way to truly know where your FT sits would be to use an accurate testing method such as the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration (next best) or simply use the newer TruT calculator.

 

[Vonko1988]

If you feel well overall and your health markers are in check than I see no issue with you running higher TT levels and if you are injecting daily than your peak--->trough will be much less drastic.

Do understand that your FT levels are much higher than 34.4 ng/dL as the calculated method used on your lab work was the outdated and inaccurate linear law-of-mass action Vermeulen method.

You SHBG of 41.77 nmol/L is far from being high and with a TT 1450 ng/dL than your FT would be almost double the top end of the reference range.

The only way to truly know where your FT sits would be to use an accurate testing method such as the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis or Ultrafiltration (next best) or simply use the newer TruT calculator.

Man, again a thing many of you here do. Fixating on numbers and not how you feel.

I have seen the new calculator and I will not use it and I will tell you why. The doctors Ive talked to have so far optimized their patients using the old calculator and have some reference where most of their patients are optimal according to the old one. So if we use the new one we must up those numbers.

Or what we have to lower our doses because FDA came out with a new thing

I bet how hard Neil Rouzier would laugh if somebody tells him this...

 

[Vonko1988]

If you feel well overall and your health markers are in check than I see no issue with you running higher TT levels and if you are injecting daily than your peak--->.

I totally agree with this. Eventually I may end up lowering my dose a little bit but I will wait for that

 

[Charliebizz]

Man, again a thing many of you here do. Fixating on numbers and not how you feel.

I have seen the new calculator and I will not use it and I will tell you why. The doctors Ive talked to have so far optimized their patients using the old calculator and have some reference where most of their patients are optimal according to the old one. So if we use the new one we must up those numbers.

Or what we have to lower our doses because FDA came out with a new thing

I bet how hard Neil Rouzier would laugh if somebody tells him this...

and he’s back folks Smh

 

[Appassionato]

Man, again a thing many of you I bet how hard Neil Rouzier would laugh if somebody tells him this...

Man, again a thing many of you here do. Fixating on numbers and not how you feel.

I bet how hard Neil Rouzier would laugh if somebody tells him this...

Yet, you're still here. Weren't you going to more "reputable sources" or to cry to your 5 doctors?

Let him laugh. We laugh at his nonsense of matching a man E2 with the the level of a woman. The guy is a real scam.

I totally agree with this. Eventually I may end up lowering my dose a little bit but I will wait for that

This is absolutely non-sense. You say we are fixated with numbers and that it's pointless even to check your E2 levels, yet now you want to lower your dose.
Weren't you on a quest to match a woman E2 in her late follicular phase?
I bet your libido will be outstanding.

 

[equel]

Vonko you make no sense what so ever

 

[Appassionato]

Vonko you went to cry on TNation saying people banned you on Excelmale and that we told you are going to die with that E2 level.

It seems you have problem with being honest as well, at the point I'm actually questioning your blood test is real.

You also omitted you're on cabergoline to control your high prolactin that an high E2 will inevitably exacerbate.

A real grown up. This is the thread.

TRT Facts - Beyond Bro-Science

 

[ncsugrad]

His profile here is gone.. so I'm pretty sure he is banned or account deleted from here or something

 

[Appassionato]

His profile here is gone.. so I'm pretty sure he is banned or account deleted from here or something

I would be surprised if he got banned, because his account says "member".
He may have just erased his profile, but mods probably know more.

 

[ncsugrad]

Can a user even do that?

It’s simple enough to not make it say “banned” if that’s what a mod wants to do. Not accusing, it’s just weird his account is gone one way or another.