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Buccal is the way to go. My pleasure.Will do! Thanks for all the help. I had trouble finding anything about the empower troches, but I didn’t think of searching “buccal troche”- I think I searched “empower troche”.
Buccal is the way to go. My pleasure.Will do! Thanks for all the help. I had trouble finding anything about the empower troches, but I didn’t think of searching “buccal troche”- I think I searched “empower troche”.
Wow I’m starting to feel really good about the money now! I was paying like 200 for monthly 25mg of enclomiphene. Now, I’m getting 50mg and what sounds like a great supply of supplemental testosterone. I’m happy with the new clinic.About double the typical Natesto dosing 11 mg (5.5 mg per nostril).
Yeah it sounds like Striant is special and not a simple lozenge/troche.Post in thread 'High hematocrit prevalence with intranasal vs. intramuscular testosterone' High hematocrit prevalence with intranasal vs. intramuscular testosterone
It’s best not to get your hopes up, set expectations low, hope for the best. This way you don’t set yourself up for disappointment.This is like music to my ears.
Exactly what I was thinking!Enclomiphene is not clomid. Wtf? Someone should know that given their post count.
Please go back and read your posts in this thread.There’s not a huge difference between the two.
Fail. Keep studying. You are basing this statement on what?There’s not a huge difference between the two.
Studies comparing enclomiphene, zuclomiphene and clomiphene found clinically important pharmacologic differences between the three. Zuclomiphene, an estrogen receptor agonist, caused estrogenic side effects often reported with clomiphene use.[33] Additionally, zuclomiphene was found to have a longer half-life (30 days) when compared to clomiphene citrate (10 hours), resulting in persistent side effects lasting beyond the therapeutic effects of the drug.[31, 34] In contrast, enclomiphene was identified as the isomer that raises LH and FSH levels, with a shorter half-life. This led to the hypothesis that treatment with enclomiphene should have more favorable outcomes in treating androgen deficient men with the goal of maintaining fertility, potentially without the side effects associated with clomiphene citrate use and with a more favorable impact on hypogonadal symptoms. While this hypothesis has yet to be proven in hypogonadal men, Gupta et al. found that enclomiphene resulted in more mature ovarian follicles than clomiphene in infertile women.[35]
How are you doing on Troches? Has anyone else used these with success? ThanksI was just prescribed 100mg testosterone troches from Empower. The doctor said to just chew on them and hold the medicine under my tongue. Does anyone have any experience with these? Should I really chew on it? Does putting between your lip and gums work better?
The prescription is part of a protocol with enclomiphene. They said it won’t suppress if I don’t take it more than twice a day.
Thank you for any thoughtful response!
I like them. I prefer the nasal gel though because you have to leave them in your mouth for a while. Overall, I think injections have an appeal though. There is an appeal to preserving fertility and avoiding suppression, but with the short-acting medications I get this little boost that’s over before I know it. I think it might be better to have a constant increase in energy, drive, and libido.How are you doing on Troches? Has anyone else used these with success? Thanks
I take 100mg before the gym and 10mg of the nasal gel twice a day. I know I was advised to split it up more by forum members, but I want to stay close to what the prescriber recommended which is that the 50mg enclomiphene is to keep the levels good throughout the day but the testosterone is for a boost for sex or exercise. I don't have sex so I just use it for lifting.@man1357 - Thank your for the thoughtful reply. I’ve been on Test over 24 years and would not recommend you suppress your HPTA, this will cause issues. I think you are on the right path, just need to give it time and dial it in.
How many times a day do you use the Troche? Is the Nasal Gel irritating?
Lastly, what is your dosage?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Everyone “will” have issues after long term TRT?I’ve been on Test over 24 years and would not recommend you suppress your HPTA, this will cause issues.
What problems would I have other than fertility issues? I figured if I take HCG with testosterone it would improve my symptoms better without libido suppression. I also don't see what the point of fertility is if I’m not in good enough health to develop a healthy relationship. My ex said that I’ve changed and was concerned.@man1357 - Thank your for the thoughtful reply. I’ve been on Test over 24 years and would not recommend you suppress your HPTA, this will cause issues. I think you are on the right path, just need to give it time and dial it in.
How many times a day do you use the Troche? Is the Nasal Gel irritating?
Lastly, what is your dosage?
Thanks in advance for your help.
More an aside to your comments. Relationships/marriage aren't always smooth. For years I thought if I could one woman to love, how much better my life would be, then, when I wasn't looking, I met the woman who would become my gf, then, my wife, after several years of living together. There were warning signs from the time we started dating but I ignored them. I chalked up my gf's moodiness and mood swings to just an aspect of her. I had/have bipolar and thought I had good insights into behavior. I was wrong; terribly wrong. She was far more damaged than me but I thought I could help her, especially by being understanding, supportive and loving. Nope. 31 years on, its been barely a marriage for about 15 years and now she's ill, with me caring for her.I like them. I prefer the nasal gel though because you have to leave them in your mouth for a while. Overall, I think injections have an appeal though. There is an appeal to preserving fertility and avoiding suppression, but with the short-acting medications I get this little boost that’s over before I know it. I think it might be better to have a constant increase in energy, drive, and libido.
I think the enclomiphene completely killed my libido. I still feel like my libido is increased on the troche and nasal gel, but it doesn't do me any good because when I don't have that increase in libido and confidence in general but rather for a short window. Not having a libido doesn't bother me much because I’m single, but I bet if I had a high libido and more confidence I wouldn't be single for long.
I’m considering switching to HCG and Tesosterone injections. Then, once I fix my love life I can go on a fertility protocol if children are desired.
I hope my rambling is useful to you.
Thank you for your thoughtful response. Although it’s been many years, I do remember all of the pain that comes with dating. I think you're right that I need to focus on getting back to casual fun. All in all life does seem incomplete without the struggle of dating though. I also have some couples in my life that are really good role models, but I think I need to remember most people aren't lucky enough to have a great marriage.More an aside to your comments. Relationships/marriage aren't always smooth. For years I thought if I could one woman to love, how much better my life would be, then, when I wasn't looking, I met the woman who would become my gf, then, my wife, after several years of living together. There were warning signs from the time we started dating but I ignored them. I chalked up my gf's moodiness and mood swings to just an aspect of her. I had/have bipolar and thought I had good insights into behavior. I was wrong; terribly wrong. She was far more damaged than me but I thought I could help her, especially by being understanding, supportive and loving. Nope. 31 years on, its been barely a marriage for about 15 years and now she's ill, with me caring for her.
I'm not against relationships or marriage but it isn't like a love song or the movies, like the Hallmark Channel. Whenever, however you get your sexual function up to speed, just enjoy yourself in dating or casual hookups. 'Looking' for love is, in a way, like looking for trouble and sometimes they're one and the same if you meet someone who has significant emotional problems, co-morbid addiction, trauma and/or sexual issues. You might not see them in the beginning or, like me, just ignore what you see just to have a gf. Wish you the best, man.
It wasn't my intent to derail your post or the thread. Even on long time testosterone injections my sexual function is more miss than hit and the messed up marriage has contributed to the damage. Nevertheless, interested in men who try different injection protocols or different forms of testosterone, such as Jatenzo(@Systemlord ) or compounded troches that you're being prescribed. I'm fortunate to have a knowledgeable and cutting edge urologist, so if I want to try something else, he's on board.Thank you for your thoughtful response. Although it’s been many years, I do remember all of the pain that comes with dating. I think you're right that I need to focus on getting back to casual fun. All in all life does seem incomplete without the struggle of dating though. I also have some couples in my life that are really good role models, but I think I need to remember most people aren't lucky enough to have a great marriage.