Calling All Long-Term TRT Users! How is Your Libido and Sexual Function?

[madman]

@bumpy might be a shining exception but don't you like to hear success stories? I do. They give us hope. If I could tolerate a PDE-5 inhibitor,I'd take them daily. I understand the complexity of erectile function and the interplay of neurotransmitters, vascular health, general health and psychological factors...BUT...there are men; men who have health issues or emotional/psychiatric problems/issues, taking T in various forms, some using a PDE-5 inhibitor or ancillaries, such as PT-141, and having the time of their lives. madman, sometimes I think you're too critical and too negative.

We get enough shit from our wives or gf, family, work and the general stress level that exists . As Oddball said "Don't hit me with those negative waves!" Let's be happy for someone who's getting a Louisville Slugger erection. Being analytical has its place in the discussions, here, but sometimes, just let it go.

Sure!

Libido 15
Erection quality 15
Orgasm strength 20


Unfortunately, this is far from common.

Most get caught up on achieving such when hopping on trt....you know that magical fairytale everyone is searching for endlessly.

Need to have realistic expectations.

As you very well know from being on here long enough that I am blunt and str8 to the point, harsh at times, and yes definitely sometimes too critical when picking things apart.

Going to cut through all the bullshit that is spewed on the forums.

Kicking sense on here and being realistic

 

[S1W]

1. What is your age?
Early 40s

2. How long have you been on TRT?
4 yrs

3. What's your current protocol?
70mg TC E3.5D (140mg/week)

4. How is your libido/desire for sex? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
10 Libido was high before TRT and TRT as further increased it.

5. How is your erection quality? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
7 This is the main reason I went to TRT. Pre-TRT I would say they were 3 or 4. Definite improvement.

6. How is your orgasm strength? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
7 Variable. Don't believe this has changed with TRT - perhaps a bit less strong on TRT

7. How is your ejaculate volume? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
5 Volume is less on TRT

 

[bumpy]

Sure!

Libido 15
Erection quality 15
Orgasm strength 20


Unfortunately, this is far from common.

Most get caught up on achieving such when hopping on trt....you know that magical fairytale everyone is searching for endlessly.

Need to have realistic expectations.

As you very well know from being on here long enough that I am blunt and str8 to the point, harsh at times, and yes definitely sometimes too critical when picking things apart.

Going to cut through all the bullshit that is spewed on the forums.

Kicking sense on here and being realistic

@tropicaldaze1950 Perhaps on this forum it’s uncommon but I believe through lifestyle changes it’s very achievable for a majority of otherwise healthy men.

If you have ever gone through what a lot of men on this forum are going through (I have) you will understand it is a very dark and desperate place to be in and they need to understand there is a way out. Maybe not a raging libido and granite erections but at least a healthy libido and erections that can penetrate and remain hard. Supplements, regular high intensity resistance training , cardio and a well rounded healthy diet can do wonders to the physiology of the human body. Engaging in a TOTAL wellness program (not just TRT/HRT) is quite possibly one of the keys that could unlock the male potential.

Men need hope, they need to hear there is a way out and I hope I can help bring that to some because I know that darkness and it isn’t pretty.

 

[deBooza]

1. What is your age?
55

2. How long have you been on TRT?
4 years.

3. What's your current protocol?
9.5mg daily, including esters. 4:3(Enanthate : propionate) ratio.
Last blood draw numbers:
TT: 610 ng/dl
E: 39 pg/ml
SHBG: 49 nmol/l
No AI.
No HCG.


4. How is your libido/desire for sex? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
6 - it does exist but could be better.

5. How is your erection quality? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
5 - poor, needs constant attention.

6. How is your orgasm strength? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
9 - very good once there.

7. How is your ejaculate volume? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
2 - have never had a large volume, no real change.
Notes:
Tried many protocols including ones that gave me TTs in excess of 2500 ng/dl. Never felt much different with all of them accept in the libido department - the higher the numbers the worse it feels. With me less seems to be more.

Been doing 9.5mg daily since January 2021 and have seen a significant drop in SHBG.
Histrically it would measure in the 80's, sometimes mid 90's. Since being on this protocol it's dropped to 49 nmol/l as of last bloods. No idea other than the protocol change.

TRT for life.

 

[tropicaldaze1950]

Sure!

Libido 15
Erection quality 15
Orgasm strength 20


Unfortunately, this is far from common.

Most get caught up on achieving such when hopping on trt....you know that magical fairytale everyone is searching for endlessly.

Need to have realistic expectations.

As you very well know from being on here long enough that I am blunt and str8 to the point, harsh at times, and yes definitely sometimes too critical when picking things apart.

Going to cut through all the bullshit that is spewed on the forums.

Kicking sense on here and being real

 

[tropicaldaze1950]

Sure!

Libido 15
Erection quality 15
Orgasm strength 20


Unfortunately, this is far from common.

Most get caught up on achieving such when hopping on trt....you know that magical fairytale everyone is searching for endlessly.

Need to have realistic expectations.

As you very well know from being on here long enough that I am blunt and str8 to the point, harsh at times, and yes definitely sometimes too critical when picking things apart.

Going to cut through all the bullshit that is spewed on the forums.

Kicking sense on here and

Sure!

Libido 15
Erection quality 15
Orgasm strength 20


Unfortunately, this is far from common.

Most get caught up on achieving such when hopping on trt....you know that magical fairytale everyone is searching for endlessly.

Need to have realistic expectations.

As you very well know from being on here long enough that I am blunt and str8 to the point, harsh at times, and yes definitely sometimes too critical when picking things apart.

Going to cut through all the bullshit that is spewed on the forums.

Kicking sense on here and being realistic

When one is diagnosed with cancer or any terminal disease, being realistic is necessary, even as a person is pursuing treatment. We're all on here as a community of men seeking resolution of a problem that takes an emotional toll, as well as a toll on relationships.

You're smart and you know the science, but every person has hope, and even if that hope might be unrealistic, it's not the duty of someone else to be blunt and harsh. I would have died shortly after birth if it were not for my father, unemployed and without insurance, making a deal with a surgeon. As I've written, I've been living with treatment resistant bipolar for 17 years. Not living well and doing poorly, but if I let the reality of my circumstances overtake me, if I abandon that tiny shred of hope that exists as I continue my efforts to restore some function, that would be the end of the ballgame. If you haven't, listen on YouTube to Theodore Roosevelt's 'Man In The Arena'.

 

[Vtail]

1. What is your age?
57

2. How long have you been on TRT?
3 yrs

3. What's your current protocol?
90 mg/week (12/14 mg daily)

4. How is your libido/desire for sex? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
8-9, no change from before TRT.

5. How is your erection quality? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
8-9, it had dropped to 6-7 for the few years before starting TRT.

6. How is your orgasm strength? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
7-9, depending on lots of factors (stress, fatigue, etc.) No real change from before TRT.

7. How is your ejaculate volume? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.
5, prior to TRT it was 8-9. This is the only thing I can complain about since starting TRT. But since I'm not making porn movies, I guess it doesn't really matter . . .

 

[Lookingforward]

Interesting conversation. Having Madman on here is a huge benefit. He is extreamly knowledgeable, can be very technical and wordy (I get lost at times) but he does keep us focused on the goal. I would say staying healthy, improving quality of life and living longer is the the goal. I understand that the original poster is looking for data to help him make decisions. The one thing I would add, that isn't talked about much on here (well Nelson does at times) is that a man's sexual relationships with his partner can significantly drive libido. For me, when I am in a relationship with someone who I am physically very attracted to, the desire goes up. Test will definately improves this IF you are stimulated properly. If you have no or little sex life it will not. I would say use it or loose it!

 

[barry1]

I wanted to give some of you long-term users a quick quiz, just so we can develop some neat anecdotal data points from this forum.

If you have the time, please answer the following questions: (I apologize if they're a touch personal)


1. What is your age?

2. How long have you been on TRT?

3. What's your current protocol?

4. How is your libido/desire for sex? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

5. How is your erection quality? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

6. How is your orgasm strength? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

7. How is your ejaculate volume? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.


Thanks so much for taking the time! I appreciate every response.

I am 74. Been on TRT for about 7 years. Still working part time as Nurse Practitioner working in mens' health.
I inject 120 mg testo cyp weekly. 1/4 tab anastrozole twice a week (theoretically).

My libido is strong. 10

Erections are a 10. I like tadalafil/sildenafil. Like knowing its got my back. Have morning wood every day.

I'll rate orgasms 8-9. Certainly not as intense as years ago.

I am disappointed in ejaculate volume. Down a bit and thinner in consistency. Seems a bit better since I've stopped uroxatrol. I'm having a Urolift in 2 weeks. Expecting some improvement after that.

 

[RayL]

57 years old. TRT for 10 years, no libido at all, tried all known protocols except injectable pellets. Quad Mix works but with no libido, I don't even care.

Have you tried PT-141 (bremalanotide)?

 

[fireeater49]

1. 57
2.15+ years
3.70mg test cyp x E3D
4.7 - 8 , was higher and lower during the years
5. 8-10, been varying at times
6. 9
7. 8, more when I drink a lot of water

points to consider
Life shit happens and my reaction to it greatly influences the above items regarding libido and etc,
I take many supplements to help with immunity and general living so it might be hard to figure it out without some sort of sacrifice for my so called immunity. Shingles did a number on me and the treatment of gabapentin knocked out my Willie for awhile. Stop that treatment. So did my addition of DHEA to my supplement regime. Stopped that too. It all came back. I think also just getting older and adjusted to circumstances in life helps also. Before TRT libido was always good but everything else was in toilet. Did play around with low dose masteron ( libido went through roof) several years ago and did low dose deca as part of TRT ( really nothing but trending high cholesterol numbers)
My 2 cents cheers!

 

[Lookingforward]

I am 74. Been on TRT for about 7 years. Still working part time as Nurse Practitioner working in mens' health.
I inject 120 mg testo cyp weekly. 1/4 tab anastrozole twice a week (theoretically).

My libido is strong. 10

Erections are a 10. I like tadalafil/sildenafil. Like knowing its got my back. Have morning wood every day.

I'll rate orgasms 8-9. Certainly not as intense as years ago.

I am disappointed in ejaculate volume. Down a bit and thinner in consistency. Seems a bit better since I've stopped uroxatrol. I'm having a Urolift in 2 weeks. Expecting some improvement after that.

What is a Urolift?

 

[TorontoTRT]

My theory is most man don’t have ED. They just have low libido. No desire, no erection. And I bet for most, lack of libido is due to porn.

 

[Jed Dorsey]

Sure!

Libido 15
Erection quality 15
Orgasm strength 20


Unfortunately, this is far from common.

Most get caught up on achieving such when hopping on trt....you know that magical fairytale everyone is searching for endlessly.

Need to have realistic expectations.

As you very well know from being on here long enough that I am blunt and str8 to the point, harsh at times, and yes definitely sometimes too critical when picking things apart.

Going to cut through all the bullshit that is spewed on the forums.

Kicking sense on here and being realistic

‘Cutting through all the bullshit’ yes but backpedaling to save face makes me wonder about your integrity. You clearly stated on one of your replies Bumpy

‘Grown ass man 5-6 years shy of 60 still blasting/cruising let alone f***king with those compounds!’
blasting/cruising in this context is clearly abuse of AAS. My belief is that any drug or compound used in supra physiologically doses is abuse.
I certainly don’t condone supra physiological doses of AAS just wanted to bring to your attention to the fact that words mean things when you say them. Good day amigos

 

[rustylwb]

I wanted to give some of you long-term users a quick quiz, just so we can develop some neat anecdotal data points from this forum.

If you have the time, please answer the following questions: (I apologize if they're a touch personal)


1. What is your age?

2. How long have you been on TRT?

3. What's your current protocol?

4. How is your libido/desire for sex? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

5. How is your erection quality? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

6. How is your orgasm strength? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

7. How is your ejaculate volume? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.


Thanks so much for taking the time! I appreciate every response.

I'm about the same as Vince but 76 Only on TRT for 2-3 years. FYI In the 1970s, I took Deca, Test, and Anavar for bodybuilding given by my Dr. Current two pumps of Gel daily I did cypionate for 2 years But my blood count got way too High. I was doing 180mg at LowT but then changed to a Urologist that changed it to 100mg each wk.

 

[Eagleface]

I wanted to give some of you long-term users a quick quiz, just so we can develop some neat anecdotal data points from this forum.

If you have the time, please answer the following questions: (I apologize if they're a touch personal)


53 years old

6 years
90 mg T Cyp every 5 days

libido/desire for sex is a 7

Erection quality is a 7
orgasm strength is a 10

ejaculate volume is a 4


Thanks so much for taking the time! I appreciate every response.

 

[ed031561]

I wanted to give some of you long-term users a quick quiz, just so we can develop some neat anecdotal data points from this forum.

If you have the time, please answer the following questions: (I apologize if they're a touch personal)


1. What is your age?

2. How long have you been on TRT?

3. What's your current protocol?

4. How is your libido/desire for sex? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

5. How is your erection quality? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

6. How is your orgasm strength? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

7. How is your ejaculate volume? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.


Thanks so much for taking the time! I appreciate every response.

1. 60
2. 17 years
3. 200mg/wk test cyp. Sometimes I will lower it to 100mg/wk to coast and once in a while add in some NPP.
4. About 7 - 8. I also supplement 3 days a wk with low dose Cialis. Mostly for prostate health and cardiovascular health. Did not have trouble with erections but the Cialis does not hurt!
5. 9 sometimes 10. At 60 I also pump sometimes to keep the tissues full. Don't need the pumping for erections.
6. Orgasm strength is good when I have one! I have always been on the less sensitive side. Would like to be more sensitive. I usually will take two to three times trying to have one unless I go a long time without one.
7. Volume is lower or should I say thicker since my vasectomy.

 

[Warrior]

15yrs TRT 80mg test every 3-4 days, 500iu HCG a week.
libido is strong
no erection issues, no help needed
lucky, i have no sides.
labs good yearly
60 yrs old

 

[Gman86]

I don’t think I’m one of the lucky few. I’ve been engaging in high intensity resistance training since I was 16 years old. I think it’s a combination of my decades in health and fitness coupled with the proper supplementation and diet that has kept me healthy libido wise. I did go through a period when I used compounds that ruined my libido. I’ve been around the block and seen and felt it all. If you think I’m bragging I’m not. I am sharing my personal experience as asked in the OP. I’ve been on the dark side (low libido and ED) so being on the other side is a giant win worth sharing. That’s what we are all here for.

By the way I don’t blast/abuse AAS. I take very low doses of these compounds when I do use them. I don’t want to get off topic but did want to address that wrongful accusation.

What compounds have ruined ur libido and erections in the past. And word to the wise, don’t feed the trolls. Ur not doing anything wrong. Ur a great addition to this forum. Don’t let one man’s opinions bother or deter u from posting what u want to post. Best thing u can do is ignore and not respond. It’s worked great for me. You’ll never see me feed into him or reply back to all his negativity ever again. I suggest u do the same, nothing good comes from replying to him

 

[Gman86]

My theory is most man don’t have ED. They just have low libido. No desire, no erection. And I bet for most, lack of libido is due to porn.

Interesting. Not sure if this is true or not for everyone, but I definitely notice erections are a little harder to get when my libido is low. When libido goes up erections are much easier and quicker to get. And they’re harder too. I don’t really ever have issues with erections, but I’m one that notices slight changes/ differences, and I definitely notice a significant difference in quickness to achieve erections and hardness of them, and how long they stay when not stimulated, based solely on my libido