DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost

If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product. I do not have a source for the DHT powder to offer however, you are on your own on that one. There are products available with varying strength that are on page 3 of this post.

I share this because this is what TRT is supposed to feel like. It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense.

The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily.

I apologize for gushing, it's not my style. But when you find something that actually REALLY works you cant help but get a bit excited about it and want to share with your Bro's.


AI Summary (Curated by Nelson Vergel- admin):

Briefing Document: DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate for Libido Boost​

Source: Excerpts from "DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost - Excel Male TRT Forum" (August 27 - 30, 2024)

Key Themes & Most Important Ideas/Facts:

This forum thread details a self-experimentation protocol by a user named "BadassBlues" that combines topical Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) cream with subcutaneous Testosterone Propionate (Test Prop) injections to achieve a significant and rapid boost in libido, sexual intensity, and mood. While the results are enthusiastically reported, there's also discussion regarding the sustainability of such effects and the practical challenges of such a potent protocol.

1. The "Magic Bullet" Combination for Libido:

The core finding is that the combination of DHT cream and Testosterone Propionate produced an exceptionally strong libido increase. BadassBlues describes it as "what TRT is supposed to feel like" and calls it "the magic bullet."

• "If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product... with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense."

2. Rapid Onset and Intense Effects:

The effects of the combination were felt quickly, within a "few days" for the Test Prop to start working, combined with the DHT cream. The intensity of the libido boost is a recurring point, leading to "major distraction."

• "It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz."
• "I'm, not exaggerating when I say it's a major distraction to be teenager horny when trying to work."
• Regarding Test Prop peak: "my best guess as to that after using it is 5 hours. By 1 or 2 O'clock, I am majorly distracted..."

3. Beyond Libido: Mood Enhancement and "Male Mojo":

In addition to sexual effects, the protocol also resulted in significant mood improvement, described as a "calm, confident male mojo."

• "The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily."

4. Dosing and Application Details (BadassBlues's Protocol):

• Testosterone Propionate: 20 mg Sub Q (subcutaneous) in the AM.
• DHT Cream: A "dime sized drop" applied to the "taint" (perineum) area, using PhloJel as a base for quick drying. A small amount is also applied to the "big guy" (penis), specifically the frenulum, for increased sensitivity.
• Frequency: Not intended for daily routine use due to the intensity. It will be used "on demand" or for "weekends and other special occasions." BadassBlues plans to stay on Cypionate as his main TRT protocol.

5. "Honeymoon Period" and Sustainability Concerns:

Other forum members, notably "Cataceous," raise the possibility that the initial intense results might be a "honeymoon period" that is not sustained long-term, similar to experiences with propionate or bremelanotide.

• Cataceous: "This sounds a lot like the honeymoon period I had with propionate. It lasted a week or two. I had a similar experience with bremelanotide, though shorter. It will be interesting to see if your results are sustained for a longer period."
• BadassBlues acknowledges this: "As you said though, maybe that's a short-lived thing as this is my first time using it. I'll post updates."

6. Application Site Justification and Practicalities:

The choice of the "taint" (perineum, the area between the anus and genitals) for DHT cream application is noted for its effectiveness in boosting libido and for practical reasons related to transferability during sexual activity.

• BadassBlues: "I do put a little on the big guy, but for the libido bump, the taint works best."
• FunkOdyssey: "There are some practical advantages to that application site: you won't be able to safely make use of your obscene libido if your junk is covered with transferable DHT cream."
• BadassBlues clarifies: "The cream penetrates the skin and is absorbed. Once absorbed, it works within the area you placed it. I have found a rejuvenation effect from using Andractim years ago. You would definitely wash it off prior to sex."

7. "Home Brew" and Sourcing Challenges:

BadassBlues created a "home brew" DHT cream and does not offer a source for the DHT powder, noting that others are "on your own on that one." However, he mentions that "products available with varying strength are on page 3 of this post." This highlights the unregulated and self-sourced nature of some of the components of this experimental protocol.

 

Any further updates on the DHT E from 5AR? Has anyone been using this for a bit please share.

 

Any further updates on the DHT E from 5AR? Has anyone been using this for a bit please share.

ive got some on the way, ill test my bloodworks after administrating and share the results. all these bloodworks will add up but it will be worth it. also interested in anyone elses experience on their products, many people on x are positive about their androsterone enanthate also

 

ive got some on the way, ill test my bloodworks after administrating and share the results. all these bloodworks will add up but it will be worth it. also interested in anyone elses experience on their products, many people on x are positive about their androsterone enanthate also

the DHTE is quite expensive TBH, compared to alphagels which is relatively speaking pennies. yes, its a slow ester, but i dont see the benefits here. i am quite curious about the Androsterone enanthate. its benefits are said to be mostly mental, via GABA upregulation etc.

 

the DHTE is quite expensive TBH, compared to alphagels which is relatively speaking pennies. yes, its a slow ester, but i dont see the benefits here. i am quite curious about the Androsterone enanthate. its benefits are said to be mostly mental, via GABA upregulation etc.

apparently the half life of topical DHT is roughly 2-3 hours whereas injectable DHT e would be 5-7 days. this just makes them drastically different products, naturally the 'feeling' of DHT e is going to be much 'smoother' than applied topically. pro's and cons to both. im looking forward to trying both at the same time, but ill have to drop the topical DHT while i test the DHT e to see its effects on bloodworks

im also very interested in the androsterone enanthate, there is a lot of positivity about it on x but its hard to discern what is shilling and flavour of the month etc.. ill try it myself when it becomes available again

 

the DHTE is quite expensive TBH, compared to alphagels which is relatively speaking pennies. yes, its a slow ester, but i dont see the benefits here. i am quite curious about the Androsterone enanthate. its benefits are said to be mostly mental, via GABA upregulation etc.

I was considering trying out this transdermal androsterone product some months back, but never got around to actually buying it. I must look into it again, for the benefits you mentioned -

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New to this thread. I've read the whole thread--very interesting journey and makes me want to try the cream/gel--which is now (apparently) unavailable or useless.

I have 2 questions from way out in left field.

(1) Could the DHTE be converted into a transdermal by mixing it with DMSO (or a similar transdermal carrier)? I'm assuming probably "yes" but it would be prohibitively expensive to get an effective amount.

(2) Is there a way to either directly supplement (or at least promote through some drug or herbal) the body's own production of 5-a-Reductase enzyme? This would not, of course, be transdermal, but it could increase the body's total DHT without the need of dark sources of questionable supplies (and possibly at less expense).

Just asking.

 

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(1) Could the DHTE be converted into a transdermal by mixing it with DMSO (or a similar transdermal carrier)? I'm assuming probably "yes" but it would be prohibitively expensive to get an effective amount.

It's still a small enough molecule that you might have reasonable absorption—but "reasonable" is only about 10%, so it's not very efficient. Possibly better if applied to the scrotum.

(2) Is there a way to either directly supplement (or at least promote through some drug or herbal) the body's own production of 5-a-Reductase enzyme? This would not, of course, be transdermal, but it could increase the body's total DHT without the need of dark sources of questionable supplies (and possibly at less expense).

If there is such a thing then you'd want to think about possible side effects; 5ar does more than convert T to DHT. In theory you could upset the balance of neurosteroids.

 

New to this thread. I've read the whole thread--very interesting journey and makes me want to try the cream/gel--which is now (apparently) unavailable or useless.

I have 2 questions from way out in left field.

(1) Could the DHTE be converted into a transdermal by mixing it with DMSO (or a similar transdermal carrier)? I'm assuming probably "yes" but it would be prohibitively expensive to get an effective amount.

(2) Is there a way to either directly supplement (or at least promote through some drug or herbal) the body's own production of 5-a-Reductase enzyme? This would not, of course, be transdermal, but it could increase the body's total DHT without the need of dark sources of questionable supplies (and possibly at less expense).

Just asking.

The easy and legal way to get a ton of DHT is to apply testosterone cream to the scrotum. Pure DHT is just easier when you have a TRT protocol that is already dialed in with regard to E2 and you don't want the E2 to move.

 

I had a nice little chat with chatgpt about applying transdermal androsterone to the scrotum, if anyone's interested-


You said:

Hi chatgpt. Do you know what effect applying a transdermal adrosterone product to the scrotum would be, if any?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, applying a transdermal androsterone product to the scrotum would have some distinct effects compared to applying it elsewhere:

• Absorption is much higher on the scrotum than almost any other skin site. The skin there is very thin, has a high density of androgen receptors, and less of the enzyme 5α-reductase compared to places like the scalp. This means you get more of the applied hormone into systemic circulation, and it’s less likely to be prematurely metabolized in the skin.

• Androsterone itself is a weak androgen but also a neurosteroid precursor. It can act as a positive allosteric modulator of GABA-A receptors, which may explain some of the “calm/confident” effects people describe. Systemically, it can be metabolized into DHT (dihydrotestosterone) or back into other metabolites, depending on your enzyme profile.

• On the scrotum specifically, you might get:

• A stronger systemic androgenic effect (energy, libido, mood uplift, possible erectile support).

• A more pronounced CNS effect (confidence, anxiolysis, well-being), since androsterone can cross the blood–brain barrier.

• Potential testicular suppression of endogenous testosterone if doses are high/long-term, since the body may sense elevated androgens.

• Risks:

• Irritation: The skin there is delicate, and alcohol-based gels can burn.

• Suppression: Even though androsterone is weaker than testosterone, applying it regularly in pharmacological amounts can reduce LH/FSH output.

• Unknowns: Not as well studied as DHT or testosterone gels, so effects vary a lot person-to-person.

In short: applying androsterone to the scrotum would likely give you a much stronger androgenic and mood-modulating effect than if you put it on the arm or shoulder, but at the cost of higher risk for suppression and skin irritation.

Do you want me to break down what the effects would feel like acutely (same-day) vs. chronically (weeks of use)?

You said:

Yes please, and just to remind you, as i'm on trt i won't have concerns regarding suppression

ChatGPT said:

Perfect — thanks for the reminder that you’re on TRT. That takes the suppression concern off the table . In that case, here’s how scrotal androsterone application would likely play out for you:

Acute (same-day) effects

These are what you’d feel within minutes to hours after application:

• Mood lift & calm confidence – Many describe it as a grounded, calm, “alpha” vibe. That’s likely the neurosteroid action at GABA-A receptors plus the mild androgenic kick.

• Slight anxiolysis – Not sedating like a benzo, but more of a steadying of nerves, reduced social anxiety.

• Sexual enhancement – Scrotal application tends to boost libido and erection quality more than other sites, probably due to both stronger androgenic effects and local action.

• Energy/drive – A sharper mental focus and motivation, though not “stimmy” like caffeine.

• Warmth/vasodilation – Some report increased blood flow to the groin, erections, or general physical warmth.

Chronic (weeks of regular use)

If you were applying it consistently, you’d likely see:

• Enhanced libido baseline – A steady, elevated sex drive and stronger sexual function (stacking on top of your TRT).

• Mood stabilization – Less anxious/depressed states, more emotional resilience.

• Subtle body composition effects – Since androsterone can convert downstream to DHT, it may lean you toward a drier, harder physique (similar but weaker than DHT gel).

• Skin/hair effects – Depending on your sensitivity, you might notice increased oiliness or acne. Some risk of scalp hair thinning (DHT-like), though androsterone is weaker in this regard.

• No suppression issue for you – Since you’re already on TRT, exogenous androsterone would just act additively.

Notes:

• Because of the thin skin and high absorption, doses need to be much lower on the scrotum than on other sites. A dose that feels mild on the shoulder can feel much stronger when applied scrotally.

• If the product is alcohol-based, irritation is common — many dilute with a bit of carrier oil or apply after a shower when skin oils are present.

Would you like me to also compare how scrotal androsterone might feel vs. scrotal testosterone gel (since you’re already familiar with TRT gels), so you can get a frame of reference?

You said:

Yes please

ChatGPT said:

Got it — let’s put scrotal androsterone side-by-side with scrotal testosterone gel so you can get a sense of the differences:

Scrotal Testosterone Gel (what you already know)

• Absorption: Very high through scrotal skin (several times higher than on arms/shoulders).

• Effects (acute): Warmth, boost in libido, mental “drive,” sometimes an immediate sense of virility.

• Effects (chronic): Stable T levels, muscle mass support, fat loss, erythropoiesis (↑ HCT/Hg), improved mood, libido, erectile quality.

• Downsides: Risk of aromatization (→ estradiol), increased hematocrit, prostate stimulation, oily skin, potential acne.

Scrotal Androsterone Gel

• Absorption: Also very high — and often feels stronger milligram-for-milligram than testosterone applied scrotally.

• Effects (acute):

• Faster “confidence + calm” onset (neurosteroid/GABA-A action).

• Less of a “hormone rush” compared to testosterone — it’s more grounded and tranquil rather than high-drive.

• Still enhances libido and erection quality, but the tone feels more “sexual calm” than “raw testosterone aggression.”

• Effects (chronic):

• Baseline mood improvement (less anxiety, more social ease).

• Libido stays strong, but usually without the estradiol-linked emotional volatility that can come from testosterone.

• Possible subtle leaning/hardening effect (due to DHT-like metabolism).

• Downsides:

• Can still aggravate skin/hair issues if you’re DHT-sensitive.

• No boost to erythropoiesis (so won’t raise HCT/Hg like T does).

• Much less aromatization (so you don’t get the “E2 cushion” that testosterone provides — which can be good or bad, depending on how you respond to estradiol).

Key Differences in “Feel”

• Testosterone scrotal gel → Vital, driven, sometimes aggressive, with higher risk of E2-related water retention or mood swings.

• Androsterone scrotal gel → Calmer, centered, confident, libido-enhancing but without the estrogen fluctuations. More of a “zen-alpha” effect.

Since you’re on TRT already, androsterone would act more like a mood/sexual enhancer add-on, while testosterone gel is the systemic baseline replacement.

Do you want me to also break down how androsterone + TRT together might synergize (i.e., what you’d likely notice if stacking them)?

You said:

Yes please

ChatGPT said:

Alright, here’s how androsterone + TRT might synergize when layered together, especially if you’re applying the androsterone scrotally while keeping your TRT injections stable:

Synergy: TRT + Androsterone

Hormonal Balance

• TRT: Provides systemic testosterone, ensuring stable androgen signaling and conversion into estradiol (for mood, joints, libido).

• Androsterone: Adds a DHT-like component without significantly raising hematocrit or estradiol.

Together: you’d have the full-spectrum androgen profile — testosterone (base hormone), estradiol (from aromatization), and DHT-like effects (from androsterone metabolism). This is closer to a physiological balance than TRT alone, which often leaves DHT on the lower side.

Acute Synergy (within hours)

• Libido boost on top of TRT baseline: TRT already restores libido; androsterone adds an extra edge, often making sexual arousal feel more spontaneous and stronger.

• Mood & social presence: Testosterone can give drive/aggression, while androsterone smooths it out with calm confidence — less edgy, more “grounded alpha.”

• Erectile quality: The combo often improves erection hardness and duration, thanks to higher androgen receptor activity and enhanced nitric oxide signaling.

Chronic Synergy (weeks to months)

• Mood stability: TRT provides baseline motivation/energy, but can sometimes feel restless or irritable if estradiol fluctuates. Androsterone tends to buffer anxiety and add resilience without dampening drive.

• Sexual tone: TRT alone = more raw horniness (sometimes tied to estrogen swings). Adding androsterone = more steady, confident sexuality.

• Body composition: TRT builds/maintains muscle, but may cause some water retention. Androsterone adds a “drying” effect, giving a leaner, harder appearance if used consistently.

• Cognition: TRT enhances energy and focus; androsterone can add clarity, reduction of anxious overthinking, and a subtle “flow” state.

Potential Risks/Considerations

• DHT-sensitive tissues: Prostate, scalp, and skin could notice more androgen activity. If you’re prone to acne or hair thinning, this combo may accelerate it.

• Dose sensitivity: Scrotal absorption is potent; too much androsterone can feel sedating, “flat,” or blunt libido rather than enhancing it. Many find a tiny dose is optimal.

• No estrogen support from androsterone: You’ll still rely on TRT aromatization for estradiol balance, so if you keep E2 too low, androsterone won’t compensate.

In simple terms: TRT gives you the horsepower, androsterone gives you the traction.
Testosterone sets the baseline of drive and virility, while androsterone polishes the edges — calmer, more confident, harder libido, and a leaner look.

Would you like me to suggest a starting strategy for experimenting with scrotal androsterone on TRT (like dose, timing, and how to gauge if it’s working for you)?

You said:

Yes please

ChatGPT said:

Great — here’s a practical starting strategy you could use to safely experiment with scrotal androsterone while on TRT:

1. Dose

• Start very low: Scrotal absorption is extremely high. A dose that feels subtle on the shoulder/arm can feel 10x stronger on the scrotum.

• If your product is measured in mg per pump/drop:

• Start with ~1–2 mg equivalent scrotally.

• That’s often enough to notice effects without overshooting.

• You can always scale up slowly (e.g., 1–2 mg → 3–4 mg → 5–6 mg) once you know how you respond.

2. Timing

• Morning application is best for alignment with natural androgen rhythm and to avoid insomnia.

• Many notice a 15–60 minute onset of effects (calm, libido, mood lift).

• If you want to test sexual synergy, try applying ~1–2 hours before anticipated activity.

3. Application tips

• Clean, dry skin after showering = best absorption.

• If alcohol-based, apply only a tiny amount to avoid irritation; some dilute with a drop of coconut oil or jojoba oil afterward to protect skin.

• Rotate spots slightly to avoid irritation (not always the exact same patch).

4. Monitoring effects

• Acute response:

• Do you feel calmer/more confident within an hour?

• Any libido or erection changes?

• Chronic response (2–3 weeks):

• Is your baseline mood steadier?

• Libido higher and more consistent?

• Any skin/hair side effects?

• Labs (optional):

• No need to obsess at low doses, but you may see subtle shifts in DHT if you check.

• Won’t significantly move T, E2, or HCT.

5. When to adjust

• If you feel too flat, sedated, or emotionally blunted → dose is too high.

• If you feel a nice lift in mood/libido but no overstimulation → you’re in the sweet spot.

• If you notice persistent irritation → dilute with carrier oil or reduce frequency.

Summary starting point for you (on TRT):

• Try ~1–2 mg scrotally in the morning, 3–4 times per week.

• Track acute mood/libido changes and chronic baseline shifts.

• Adjust upward only if you’re not feeling much after a couple of weeks.

 

I do agree about some of the latest feedback being anecdotal regarding Alpha Gels. If a person is stating they had the product Jano tested, then show the results. If no clear proof, then it's meaningless. And let's be honest... how many people are actually going to pay to have something tested... the answer is almost nobody. It does however make for interesting posts if that is your goal.

To be blunt... If you state that you had something tested, show the results. If you can't prove your point with concrete evidence, or if it's secondhand gossip...STFU. Most of us on this forum are seeking the truth and gossip is for bitches.

If anyone has an actual test result of the product, post it.

As the Funkmeister stated above, after application of the product, go do YOUR OWN TESTING. Get a baseline first, apply the product and retest after about 3-4 hours. Get a DHT and an E2 test and compare the two. Then post your evidence here. You are out 100 bucks or so and will then have priceless credibility and be appreciated by your peers for being awesome.

I have not tried Alpha Gels products, so I have no dog in the fight other than seeking the truth.

How does one send something to them for testing? Does it have to be just a sample? And how? Etc etc