DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost

If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product. I do not have a source for the DHT powder to offer however, you are on your own on that one. There are products available with varying strength that are on page 3 of this post.

I share this because this is what TRT is supposed to feel like. It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense.

The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily.

I apologize for gushing, it's not my style. But when you find something that actually REALLY works you cant help but get a bit excited about it and want to share with your Bro's.


AI Summary (Curated by Nelson Vergel- admin):

Briefing Document: DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate for Libido Boost​

Source: Excerpts from "DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost - Excel Male TRT Forum" (August 27 - 30, 2024)

Key Themes & Most Important Ideas/Facts:

This forum thread details a self-experimentation protocol by a user named "BadassBlues" that combines topical Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) cream with subcutaneous Testosterone Propionate (Test Prop) injections to achieve a significant and rapid boost in libido, sexual intensity, and mood. While the results are enthusiastically reported, there's also discussion regarding the sustainability of such effects and the practical challenges of such a potent protocol.

1. The "Magic Bullet" Combination for Libido:

The core finding is that the combination of DHT cream and Testosterone Propionate produced an exceptionally strong libido increase. BadassBlues describes it as "what TRT is supposed to feel like" and calls it "the magic bullet."

• "If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product... with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense."

2. Rapid Onset and Intense Effects:

The effects of the combination were felt quickly, within a "few days" for the Test Prop to start working, combined with the DHT cream. The intensity of the libido boost is a recurring point, leading to "major distraction."

• "It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz."
• "I'm, not exaggerating when I say it's a major distraction to be teenager horny when trying to work."
• Regarding Test Prop peak: "my best guess as to that after using it is 5 hours. By 1 or 2 O'clock, I am majorly distracted..."

3. Beyond Libido: Mood Enhancement and "Male Mojo":

In addition to sexual effects, the protocol also resulted in significant mood improvement, described as a "calm, confident male mojo."

• "The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily."

4. Dosing and Application Details (BadassBlues's Protocol):

• Testosterone Propionate: 20 mg Sub Q (subcutaneous) in the AM.
• DHT Cream: A "dime sized drop" applied to the "taint" (perineum) area, using PhloJel as a base for quick drying. A small amount is also applied to the "big guy" (penis), specifically the frenulum, for increased sensitivity.
• Frequency: Not intended for daily routine use due to the intensity. It will be used "on demand" or for "weekends and other special occasions." BadassBlues plans to stay on Cypionate as his main TRT protocol.

5. "Honeymoon Period" and Sustainability Concerns:

Other forum members, notably "Cataceous," raise the possibility that the initial intense results might be a "honeymoon period" that is not sustained long-term, similar to experiences with propionate or bremelanotide.

• Cataceous: "This sounds a lot like the honeymoon period I had with propionate. It lasted a week or two. I had a similar experience with bremelanotide, though shorter. It will be interesting to see if your results are sustained for a longer period."
• BadassBlues acknowledges this: "As you said though, maybe that's a short-lived thing as this is my first time using it. I'll post updates."

6. Application Site Justification and Practicalities:

The choice of the "taint" (perineum, the area between the anus and genitals) for DHT cream application is noted for its effectiveness in boosting libido and for practical reasons related to transferability during sexual activity.

• BadassBlues: "I do put a little on the big guy, but for the libido bump, the taint works best."
• FunkOdyssey: "There are some practical advantages to that application site: you won't be able to safely make use of your obscene libido if your junk is covered with transferable DHT cream."
• BadassBlues clarifies: "The cream penetrates the skin and is absorbed. Once absorbed, it works within the area you placed it. I have found a rejuvenation effect from using Andractim years ago. You would definitely wash it off prior to sex."

7. "Home Brew" and Sourcing Challenges:

BadassBlues created a "home brew" DHT cream and does not offer a source for the DHT powder, noting that others are "on your own on that one." However, he mentions that "products available with varying strength are on page 3 of this post." This highlights the unregulated and self-sourced nature of some of the components of this experimental protocol.

 

For me the T gel on scrotum is not working to get a clean dht boost. As you mentioned, I feel like getting a T and E2 boost.

With injectable T longer esters it seems that it converts less to dht measured on blood serum.

Yeah, I was wonderring the same that if injectables are good at converting to DHT.

I just got my numbers back. I was taking taking 35mg MWF Test Enan two weeks ago while I got tested. And I got the following results:

E2: 89 pg/ml
DHT: 90 ng/dl
TT: 994 ng/dl
SHBG: 18 nmol/L

I have been extremely emotional lately and my E2 reading confirms that. I am gonna try add adex on shot days now to see if I get some improvement.

But my DHT seems fine for the T level. Once getting my E2 to a decent level it would be interesting to see if my libido improves.

 

Yeah, I was wonderring the same that if injectables are good at converting to DHT.

I just got my numbers back. I was taking taking 35mg MWF Test Enan two weeks ago while I got tested. And I got the following results:

E2: 89 pg/ml
DHT: 90 ng/dl
TT: 994 ng/dl
SHBG: 18 nmol/L

I have been extremely emotional lately and my E2 reading confirms that. I am gonna try add adex on shot days now to see if I get some improvement.

But my DHT seems fine for the T level. Once getting my E2 to a decent level it would be interesting to see if my libido improves.

You left out the most critical blood marker here free testosterone.

Have no idea how many days post-injection labs were done but iff you are following the uncommon 3X/week protocol injecting (M/W/F) then your true trough would be Monday morning (72 hrs) post-injection.

The only way too know where your FT truly sits would be tested using the most accurate assay the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis especially in cases of altered SHBG.

If you do not have access to such (live outside of the US) then you would need to use/rely on the next best testing method which would be the go to calculated linear law-of-mass action Vermeulen (cFTV) which will give a good approximation mind you it tends to slightly overestimate.

If we take you most likely close to trough 48 hrs post-injection or true trough 72 hrs post-injection high TT 994 ng/dL, lowish SHBG 18 nmol/L and Albumin 4.3 g/dL then your cFTV 31.1 ng/dL is very high.

Again if your blood work was done close to trough or true trough then your peak TT and more importantly FT will be higher and it is a given estradiol will be much higher too.

Free & Bioavailable Testosterone calculator

Your estradiol is high because your FT is too high.

No such thing as a natty young male with lowish SHBG running around with a whopping TT 994 ng/dL and more importantly very high FT 31 ng/dL.

Too many caught up on that more T is better mentality bulls**t!

Always need to be mindful of your injection frequency/where trough FT sits.

FT <5 ng/dL would be considerd low.

FT 5-9 ng/dL would be considered the grey zone where some men may experience symptoms of low-T.

FT 10-15 ng/dL would be healthy.

FT 20-25 ng/dL would be high-end/high!

The majority of men will do well with a trough FT 15-25 ng/dL depending on the injection frequency.

Need to keep in mind that there is a big difference between one running a high-end/high trough FT 20-25 ng/dL injecting daily vs twice-weekly vs once weekly.

Also going to be a big difference in peak--->trough on said protocol.

Many tend to overlook this and gun for a high-end/high trough FT only to end up struggling with sides especilly in the long run.

Just to put this in perspective most healthy young males would be hitting a cFTV 13-15 ng/dL or 10-12 ng/dL tested using the most accurate assay the gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis and this is a short-lived daily peak to boot.

Even if you take those natty outliers in the 95th percentile hitting a high FT 25 ng/dL again this is a short-lived daily peak to boot.

You have guys on T hitting a trough FT 25-30+ ng/dL injecting daily with FT elevated 24/7, EOD as in every 2 days (48 hrs post-injection),twice-weekly as in every 3.5 days (84 hrs post-injection), once weekly as in 7 days post-injection.

You get the point!

Bad move here throwing in an AI when the most sensible move would be lowering your weekly dose of T and bringing down your trough/steady-state FT which will bring down your estradiol.

Clear as day your FT is way too high!

You left out the critical blood markers RBCs, hemoglobin and hematocrit too!