DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost

If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product. I do not have a source for the DHT powder to offer however, you are on your own on that one. There are products available with varying strength that are on page 3 of this post.

I share this because this is what TRT is supposed to feel like. It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense.

The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily.

I apologize for gushing, it's not my style. But when you find something that actually REALLY works you cant help but get a bit excited about it and want to share with your Bro's.


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Briefing Document: DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate for Libido Boost​

Source: Excerpts from "DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost - Excel Male TRT Forum" (August 27 - 30, 2024)

Key Themes & Most Important Ideas/Facts:

This forum thread details a self-experimentation protocol by a user named "BadassBlues" that combines topical Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) cream with subcutaneous Testosterone Propionate (Test Prop) injections to achieve a significant and rapid boost in libido, sexual intensity, and mood. While the results are enthusiastically reported, there's also discussion regarding the sustainability of such effects and the practical challenges of such a potent protocol.

1. The "Magic Bullet" Combination for Libido:

The core finding is that the combination of DHT cream and Testosterone Propionate produced an exceptionally strong libido increase. BadassBlues describes it as "what TRT is supposed to feel like" and calls it "the magic bullet."

  • "If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product... with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense."
2. Rapid Onset and Intense Effects:

The effects of the combination were felt quickly, within a "few days" for the Test Prop to start working, combined with the DHT cream. The intensity of the libido boost is a recurring point, leading to "major distraction."

  • "It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz."
  • "I'm, not exaggerating when I say it's a major distraction to be teenager horny when trying to work."
  • Regarding Test Prop peak: "my best guess as to that after using it is 5 hours. By 1 or 2 O'clock, I am majorly distracted..."
3. Beyond Libido: Mood Enhancement and "Male Mojo":

In addition to sexual effects, the protocol also resulted in significant mood improvement, described as a "calm, confident male mojo."

  • "The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily."
4. Dosing and Application Details (BadassBlues's Protocol):

  • Testosterone Propionate: 20 mg Sub Q (subcutaneous) in the AM.
  • DHT Cream: A "dime sized drop" applied to the "taint" (perineum) area, using PhloJel as a base for quick drying. A small amount is also applied to the "big guy" (penis), specifically the frenulum, for increased sensitivity.
  • Frequency: Not intended for daily routine use due to the intensity. It will be used "on demand" or for "weekends and other special occasions." BadassBlues plans to stay on Cypionate as his main TRT protocol.
5. "Honeymoon Period" and Sustainability Concerns:

Other forum members, notably "Cataceous," raise the possibility that the initial intense results might be a "honeymoon period" that is not sustained long-term, similar to experiences with propionate or bremelanotide.

  • Cataceous: "This sounds a lot like the honeymoon period I had with propionate. It lasted a week or two. I had a similar experience with bremelanotide, though shorter. It will be interesting to see if your results are sustained for a longer period."
  • BadassBlues acknowledges this: "As you said though, maybe that's a short-lived thing as this is my first time using it. I'll post updates."
6. Application Site Justification and Practicalities:

The choice of the "taint" (perineum, the area between the anus and genitals) for DHT cream application is noted for its effectiveness in boosting libido and for practical reasons related to transferability during sexual activity.

  • BadassBlues: "I do put a little on the big guy, but for the libido bump, the taint works best."
  • FunkOdyssey: "There are some practical advantages to that application site: you won't be able to safely make use of your obscene libido if your junk is covered with transferable DHT cream."
  • BadassBlues clarifies: "The cream penetrates the skin and is absorbed. Once absorbed, it works within the area you placed it. I have found a rejuvenation effect from using Andractim years ago. You would definitely wash it off prior to sex."
7. "Home Brew" and Sourcing Challenges:

BadassBlues created a "home brew" DHT cream and does not offer a source for the DHT powder, noting that others are "on your own on that one." However, he mentions that "products available with varying strength are on page 3 of this post." This highlights the unregulated and self-sourced nature of some of the components of this experimental protocol.
 
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This is wrong. Stanolone and DHT have identical chemical structure, which is the definition of bioidentical.
Good point, and one that is often overlooked. It's easy to get confused as for whatever reason the term "Bioidentical" seems to conjure up images of organic, or natural in the sense that it originates from an organic source. It just means it is identical to the organic structure.


A good example of this is Pregnyl VS Ovidrel. Both are HCG, but Pregnyl is obtained from pregnant women's urine while Ovidrel is made in a lab. Now this is a simplified explanation, so anyone wanting to discuss the intricacies of this example should do so on a separate thread.
 
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If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product. I do not have a source for the DHT powder to offer however, you are on your own on that one. There are products available with varying strength that are on page 3 of this post.

I share this because this is what TRT is supposed to feel like. It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense.

The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily.

I apologize for gushing, it's not my style. But when you find something that actually REALLY works you cant help but get a bit excited about it and want to share with your Bro's.
Can you give the homebrew recipe please?
 
Why then do athletes who take stanolone test positive to stanolone and not elevated DHT levels?
Even things that are "bioidentical" can be detected as being from an external (likely lab-generated) source (e.g. testosterone and HGH). I'm not familiar with stanolone but the tests are very sophisticated so that is not a valid reason to consider stanolone to be a meaningfully different compound from DHT. I'm slightly beyond my knowledge-space here, but my understanding is that compounds that are the same at the molecular level are not necessarily the same at the sub-molecular level.
 
Why then do athletes who take stanolone test positive to stanolone and not elevated DHT levels?

I'm not sure, there could be plenty of reasons including a decision to use the name Stanolone to differentiate between endogenous and exogenous DHT (since in the context of PED detection, the DHT would have to be administered exogenously).

I just know both names refer to the same exact molecular structure
 
Why then do athletes who take stanolone test positive to stanolone and not elevated DHT levels?
Please correct me if I am wrong, but to my knowledge athletes aren't tested for stanolone, but rather stanozolol. Testing for stanolone would be the equivelant of testing for testosterone.

 
Please correct me if I am wrong, but to my knowledge athletes aren't tested for stanolone, but rather stanozolol. Testing for stanolone would be the equivelant of testing for testosterone.

Not that it matters for the purposes of this thread, but non-endogenous testosterone can be detected (using Isotopes IIRC) and WADA athletes are tested for it AFAIK. There was a Tour de France winner (before he was disqualified) whose name I am forgetting who tested positive for exogenous T.
 
Even things that are "bioidentical" can be detected as being from an external (likely lab-generated) source (e.g. testosterone and HGH). I'm not familiar with stanolone but the tests are very sophisticated so that is not a valid reason to consider stanolone to be a meaningfully different compound from DHT. I'm slightly beyond my knowledge-space here, but my understanding is that compounds that are the same at the molecular level are not necessarily the same at the sub-molecular level.
At least in the past I recall that they used the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone to reveal doping. It's stated that an abnormal T/E ratio can also be indicative of the use of exogenous DHT.

Epitestosterone is an inactive epimer of testosterone that is naturally produced in equal amounts with testosterone in the body. It is used in anti-doping tests to determine the ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone (T/E ratio) to detect the use of exogenous testosterone. R
 
My blood tests (what I got here) never included LDL HDL. That's what I'm concerned about with orals and AAS in general. The 5mg should have minimal impact but there is a risk.
Never got out of TRT regarding gym what others experienced. That's why I will try running this long term.
Update on my 5mg Oxandrolone daily.
For me the gym benefits lasted maybe 3-5 weeks. This diminishing returns seem normal for AAS cycles, however, I hoped with the small dose and the daily fluctuations the effects would remain.

I was wondering if the same happened to you guys who do use TP instead of long esters or additional DHT wrt initial benefits experienced physical and mental.
 
If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product. I do not have a source for the DHT powder to offer however, you are on your own on that one. There are products available with varying strength that are on page 3 of this post.

I share this because this is what TRT is supposed to feel like. It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense.

The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily.

I apologize for gushing, it's not my style. But when you find something that actually REALLY works you cant help but get a bit excited about it and want to share with your Bro's.
Have you or anyone else here ordered from AlphaGels or another reputable source recently? I understand there have been shortages for a couple compounds as of late so trying to gauge whether the raws/cream are still legit.
 
Have you or anyone else here ordered from AlphaGels or another reputable source recently? I understand there have been shortages for a couple compounds as of late so trying to gauge whether the raws/cream are still legit.
I'd suggest avoiding AlphaGels. Recent testing by Janoshik found his 20% DHT to only be 10%. He also lied about the composition of the "gel". In emails he states that 30-40% of the carrier is DMSO when in fact it is 100% DMSO!
 
I'd suggest avoiding AlphaGels. Recent testing by Janoshik found his 20% DHT to only be 10%. He also lied about the composition of the "gel". In emails he states that 30-40% of the carrier is DMSO when in fact it is 100% DMSO!
Personally, if they're the only source, I wouldn't let this scare me away. There's nothing wrong with DMSO and if the DHT works then it works. MT-2 was known to be under-dosed from the non-US/CA sources but it is so strong and you have to dose by experimentation anyway so it doesn't really matter.
 
I'd suggest avoiding AlphaGels. Recent testing by Janoshik found his 20% DHT to only be 10%. He also lied about the composition of the "gel". In emails he states that 30-40% of the carrier is DMSO when in fact it is 100% DMSO!
Which alternative source for topical DHT do you suggest? There aren't exactly a plethora of options. That's the only product I'm aware of that has reliably worked for everyone who used it (including myself and RL friends).

100% DMSO would explain the skin rape though.
 
Which alternative source for topical DHT do you suggest? There aren't exactly a plethora of options. That's the only product I'm aware of that has reliably worked for everyone who used it (including myself and RL friends).

100% DMSO would explain the skin rape though.
I've never used this product but I do use 100% DMSO all the time and it can certainly be a little harsh on the skin in some places. Mixing whatever your normal dose of alphagels with the 70%DMSO/30% aloe-vera blend might reduce the skin issues.
 
I much prefer PhloJel Ultra, but it has to be shipped from Canada and since it is technically a medical product it has to go through customs. If you order it, order a lot.

The DMSO works just as well, but it doesn't have the same consistency.

I just made a new batch with the DMSO.
 
Which alternative source for topical DHT do you suggest? There aren't exactly a plethora of options. That's the only product I'm aware of that has reliably worked for everyone who used it (including myself and RL friends).

100% DMSO would explain the skin rape though.
There aren't any that I'm aware of because there is a global shortage DHT powder.
If it's working for you, keep on using it, experimenting to find your optimal dose.
Apart from the questionable potency, it does concern me that Alphagels lied about the composition of the "gel".
 

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