T Propionate protocol

I'm taking trans dermal progesterone on scrotum EOD + prop/enth IM ED. You are right it helps stay calm and sleep in better.

How much progesterone cream are you using and why EOD, not ED?
Are you also using hCG?
I wonder if there would be any need to take progesterone in addition to hCG since you get quite a lot of progesterone from the hCG.
 
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How much progesterone cream are you using and why EOD, not ED?
Are you also using hCG?
I wonder if there would be any need to take progesterone in addition to hCG since you get quite a lot of progesterone from the hCG.
I'm using just 5mg of progesterone drops EOD cause of half life of transdermal progesterone is 30-40 hrs, on ED application and felt tired and sedated all times. Tried HCG long time ago and had moon face with aggression and irritation at any dosage.
 
I'm using just 5mg of progesterone drops EOD cause of half life of transdermal progesterone is 30-40 hrs, on ED application and felt tired and sedated all times. Tried HCG long time ago and had moon face with aggression and irritation at any dosage.
What brand do you like because I use a 20mg cream but I only use a quarter of a pump
 
Just curious if anyone on prop still does injections before bed? I switched to doing 12mg before bed subq and it feels much better. I think prop spikes way slower than most people think on this thread. I know, I know I need to get bloodwork but I haven’t been on protocol long enough. I’ll get blood work in 3 weeks because I just started this protocol on Monday. Also using progesterone cream
 
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Just curious if anyone on prop still does injections before bed? I switched to doing 12mg before bed subq and it feels much better. I think prop spikes way slower than most people think on this thread. I know, I know I need to get bloodwork but I haven’t been on protocol long enough. I’ll get blood work in 3 weeks because I just started this protocol on Monday. Also using progesterone cream

So did you get blood work done?
 
So did you get blood work done?
Yes sorry, I’m keeping with morning dosages because my test ~4 hours after injection was 936. Shbg unchanged, e2 at peak was 40. I’m still having sleep issues on prop however. Progesterone cream’s effectiveness for sleep waned after about 4 weeks. I might switch to an enan and cream combo protocol but I want to give prop the full experience
 
Yes sorry, I’m keeping with morning dosages because my test ~4 hours after injection was 936. Shbg unchanged, e2 at peak was 40. I’m still having sleep issues on prop however. Progesterone cream’s effectiveness for sleep waned after about 4 weeks. I might switch to an enan and cream combo protocol but I want to give prop the full experience
I’m doing another blood test at my local labcorp tomorrow at their latest appointment possible to see what the rise and fall is like.
 
Yes sorry, I’m keeping with morning dosages because my test ~4 hours after injection was 936. Shbg unchanged, e2 at peak was 40. I’m still having sleep issues on prop however. Progesterone cream’s effectiveness for sleep waned after about 4 weeks. I might switch to an enan and cream combo protocol but I want to give prop the full experience
Interesting. What was your test prop dose? I've had same issue with straight prop causing too much stimulation at night. I suggest you to try enth+prop blend with higher ratio enth to prop.
 

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