Ya I respect and understand that. It can be very costly and timely endeavor. I respect everyone’s individual journey.I get what your saying. But I don’t call it giving up. I just feel it’s not the answer for me. I’m not built for all the time invested and money and the wild swings. I’d rather feel low grade normal. Then all over the place like I am on trt. I also do not want to derail op thread. Was just adding I do not do well on trt as a low shbg guy.