Working through recovering from ruptured tendon and rotator cuff surgery. Should be getting nandrolone from Dr. next check in, but curious about these peptides.
Can I:
* Inject IM near sight instead of subQ?
* Combine with TRT (test cyp) in one syringe and IM inj in shoulder?
* Combine BPC157+TB500+cyp in one IM injection?
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Hi, brand new member here. Lots of good information and discussions on this forum. I'm with Peter MD and so far so good. Already had labs, so I got into (virtually) see a physician right away and started my treatment. I would have liked to have started at a higher ml/inj, but I'm open to see how current protocol goes at 0.4ml 2x/wk (160mg) + HCG 25u ...started 4 wks ago.
This is not looking too good!
You were started on a horrible TRT protocol from the get-go.
Too high a starting T dose let alone adding in hCG off the hop will drive up T levels further.
Hard to believe you would even state (1st thread posted on Excel)
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*I would have liked to have started at a higher ml/inj, but I'm open to see how current protocol goes at 0.4ml 2x/wk (160mg) + HCG 25u ...started 4 wks ago.
You have no understanding of how this works.
The common starting dose is 100 mg T/week or 50 mg T split twice weekly (every 3.5 days).
We always say start low and go slow on a T-only protocol as we want to see how the body reacts to testosterone and where said protocol (dose of T/injection frequency) will have your trough TT, FT, SHBG and estradiol let alone other critical markers such as RBCs, hemoglobin and hematocrit.
Most men on TRT are injecting 100-200 mg T/week whether once weekly, twice weekly (every 3.5 days), M/W/F, EOD, or daily.
The majority of men can easily hit a healthy let alone high trough FT injecting 100-150 mg T/week especially when split into more frequent injections.
Yes, some outliers may need the higher-end dose but it is far from common.
200 mg T/week is overkill, nonsense pushed by those so-called TRT gurus, dime-dozen run-of-the-mill T clinics, and all those blast n cruizers on the bumass forums littered on the internet.
Everyone and their brother preaching high T is where it's at with that more T is better mentality.
Pure nonsense.
Tread lightly on who you seek advice from.
Keep in mind running too high a trough FT level can be just as bad in many ways as having too low an FT level especially when it comes to libido/erectile function and mood.
Again keep in mind when first starting TRT or tweaking a protocol (dose of T/injection frequency) hormones will be in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) and it is common for most to experience ups/downs during the transition as the body is trying to adjust.
Even once blood levels have stabilized it will still take time (a few months) for the body to adapt to the new set-point and this is the critical time when one needs to truly gauge how they feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms.
Every protocol needs to be given a fighting chance (12 weeks) to claim whether it was truly a success or failure.
Otherwise, you will be left in a constant state of confusion chasing your tail endlessly for that so-called magical optimal!
This is where most fail as they have no clue how exogenous T works.
You also stated (1st thread posted on Excel):
*I hear you. Not the lowest levels, but def crushed and I suppose it’s that after realizing the likely main source to my symptoms, I'd prefer to start higher and dial it back. I know it’s supposed to be mildest protocol and work up, but now knowing what I know...
Wasn’t seriously considering 2 esters just noticed they had a wide selection.
*Thanks for the reply @Blackhawk ... good advice. I'll keep running how I was prescribed, it's all good so far. I know this is TRT and I'm not looking to blast, but to be honest, the anabolic effect so far is a real plus in treating my symptoms - is there anyone who doesn't like the increased muscle from TRT? I know more is not always better, but would be nice to enhance TRT and its anabolic properties with oxandrolone, nandrolone or stanozolol.
You do not know.
Again always best to start low and go slow.
Patience is key.
Much easier going up than coming down.
You are getting way ahead of yourself here.
Just started TRT let alone not even on long enough to let things settle and you are already talking about throwing in other compounds.
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*Have been reading some experiences & feedback on this forum regarding nandrolone, benefits, dosing etc. I've been prescribed .35ml (70mg) Q7, which is in range of what seems to be what the majority is at (50-100mg q7). Doc is starting low to see how it goes, but I don't feel joint and tendon relief after 4 wks. and don't think I will see any anabolic benefit at this dose. Any relief I feel is short lived (couple days), then back to aches and pains.
Curious if adjustment can be made to nandro based on lab results and how I feel. Also curious what dose you started nandro at? when did you feel relief (arthritis, joint pain, surgery on rotator cuff)? if your dose was increased, did you just ask bc you didn't feel relief?
Now this is where it gets even nuttier as you stated in your 2nd thread posted a week after your 1st thread was posted that you had started TRT a month ago which would have been the end of October yet you had already been on Nandrolone for 4 weeks and were already eager to push up your dose.
Again you clearly have no clue how exogenous T let alone other compounds work.
As I stated in my previous reply 4 weeks means nothing when using ND as it takes much longer to reach steady-state due to the half-life of the decanoate ester.
Clear as day you have been brainwashed into that more T is better mentality.
You are setting yourself up for failure.
Started on T (fairly high dose) + hCG and nandrolone!
This was just a few months ago.
