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Hi there, greetings to you all.

Sorry for my Englisch/misspellings. Englisch is not my native language.

43 y/o male
I have used Finasteride and SSRI in the past. Which led me probably with Low T and low E. Don't wanna go too deep into this. There are much forums about these topics and they are very depressing.

So i was borderline low T and my doc agreed with TRT. Over here in The Netherlands you can either go for Androgel, Sustanon or Nebido. HCG is not prescribed here other than for fertility.

About 6 months ago i started with Androgel 2 pumps. My T and FT went above the range. E in the range and so did SHBG. I felt great, besides libido. I got some morning Wood, which was prior very rare. Also vivid dreams i didn't had in years. Doc went down to one pump and all the efforts weaned off. Back to two pumps and now 3 pumps. And yes, LH lowered so did T and FT
I always thought my problems were because of low T, but i see now that low E is also a factor, or even more.
My problems are:
- Anexiety (although less on TRT)
- Low/zero libido
- ED
- Dry hands
-Bad sleep
-no pleasure orgasms
- cold hands
- Bad short memory
- popping joints

My latest labs, on 2 pumps, Dutch ref. ranges.
E 46 (80 - 250)
SHGB 22 (12 - 71)
T 19 (8 - 32)
FT 476 (173 - 694)

As my T and FT are in the ref ranges, i think E is my biggest problem and cause of my problems i think. My doc is open to go for Sustanon, but i have no Idea if that will raise E more or even too much.
Normal protocol in The Netherlands is 250/3 weeks, but i think that's insane. I don't wanna switch if injections don't raise my E.

I was also thinking about taking Estradiol, but i doubt if any doc over here will prescribe this and i don't wanna buy that by internet or ugl.
I also bought flaxseeds and soymilk, but too early to dat anything about that.

Any insights what the best thing is to do?
 
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My latest labs, on 2 pumps, Dutch ref. ranges.
E 46 (80 - 250)
SHGB 22 (12 - 71)
T 19 (8 - 32)
FT 476 (173 - 694)
You’re supposed to test labs 4 hours after application.

When are labs drawn in relation to application of T gel?

If you take the sample blood sample, split it into two, you can get 295 ng/dL on one test and 375 ng/dL on the second test from the SAME sample of blood. Both results are the same in reality!

I created a thread, “at what Free T level do you feel optimal”, 68% felt optimal, best at the top 25 percentile and above the normal ranges.

 
Hi there, greetings to you all.

Sorry for my Englisch/misspellings. Englisch is not my native language.

43 y/o male
I have used Finasteride and SSRI in the past. Which led me probably with Low T and low E. Don't wanna go too deep into this. There are much forums about these topics and they are very depressing.

So i was borderline low T and my doc agreed with TRT. Over here in The Netherlands you can either go for Androgel, Sustanon or Nebido. HCG is not prescribed here other than for fertility.

About 6 months ago i started with Androgel 2 pumps. My T and FT went above the range. E in the range and so did SHBG. I felt great, besides libido. I got some morning Wood, which was prior very rare. Also vivid dreams i didn't had in years. Doc went down to one pump and all the efforts weaned off. Back to two pumps and now 3 pumps. And yes, LH lowered so did T and FT
I always thought my problems were because of low T, but i see now that low E is also a factor, or even more.
My problems are:
- Anexiety (although less on TRT)
- Low/zero libido
- ED
- Dry hands
-Bad sleep
-no pleasure orgasms
- cold hands
- Bad short memory
- popping joints

My latest labs, on 2 pumps, Dutch ref. ranges.
E 46 (80 - 250)
SHGB 22 (12 - 71)
T 19 (8 - 32)
FT 476 (173 - 694)

As my T and FT are in the ref ranges, i think E is my biggest problem and cause of my problems i think. My doc is open to go for Sustanon, but i have no Idea if that will raise E more or even too much.
Normal protocol in The Netherlands is 250/3 weeks, but i think that's insane. I don't wanna switch if injections don't raise my E.

I was also thinking about taking Estradiol, but i doubt if any doc over here will prescribe this and i don't wanna buy that by internet or ugl.
I also bought flaxseeds and soymilk, but too early to dat anything about that.

Any insights what the best thing is to do?
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