Increased test. dose and crazy anxiety - beware!!

[rharvey]

Hi All,

So firstly this is all on me as I messed with my weekly dosage and learnt a very, very hard lesson this past weekend. I doubled my dose from 100mg to 200 mg a week last week without increasing it slowly, as I've read that more androgens will hopefully lower my SHBG levels. From Thursday last week after 3 injections EOD of 0.2ml, I just did not feel well (detached, dull, tired, moody, sad), injected again on Sat morning, and then all of Sat and Sun went into anxiety and panic HELL. At one point I was just wanting to get off the ride it was so awful, and was contemplating asking my girlfriend to take me to the emergency room as I thought my sanity was at stake. I did not sleep last night and neither did she as I was having nightmares all night and crazy panicky thoughts. WTF.

I feel much better today after deciding not to inject - the test levels in my body are most likely subsiding. My question now is: Should I go right back to my prescribed dose right away from tomorrow or wait another day before I inject? Do I need to taper down? Any other advice? Yes I was dumb for doing this and will never fuck with my levels like that again unless under doctors supervision.

 

[Gman86]

According to my math with half-lives, you should wait 10 days before injecting your regular 100mg dose. If that feels like a long time to wait to inject, I would at least wait a week.

 

[Vince]

I agree with Gman, wait a good week and then go back to your original protocol.

 

[Cataceous]

I'm a little unclear on the dosing because "EOD of 0.2ml" would be 40 mg EOD at 200 mg/mL, which is 140 mg/week.

 

[madman]

Hi All,

So firstly this is all on me as I messed with my weekly dosage and learnt a very, very hard lesson this past weekend. I doubled my dose from 100mg to 200 mg a week last week without increasing it slowly, as I've read that more androgens will hopefully lower my SHBG levels. From Thursday last week after 3 injections EOD of 0.2ml, I just did not feel well (detached, dull, tired, moody, sad), injected again on Sat morning, and then all of Sat and Sun went into anxiety and panic HELL. At one point I was just wanting to get off the ride it was so awful, and was contemplating asking my girlfriend to take me to the emergency room as I thought my sanity was at stake. I did not sleep last night and neither did she as I was having nightmares all night and crazy panicky thoughts. WTF.

I feel much better today after deciding not to inject - the test levels in my body are most likely subsiding. My question now is: Should I go right back to my prescribed dose right away from tomorrow or wait another day before I inject? Do I need to taper down? Any other advice? Yes I was dumb for doing this and will never fuck with my levels like that again unless under doctors supervision.

Now why would you go and do such when you had already been given advice in your previous threads!

Anavar or Proviron to lower SHBG

First sub-q pin this morning - advice please





Again everyone needs to get over this hammering down HIGH SHBG to achieve a healthy FT level as again regarding the new research/understanding of SHBG:T binding.....an extremely high TT is in no way needed to achieve a healthy FREE TESTOSTERONE level in cases of men with high SHBG.

 

[madman]

Regarding higher/high SHBG.....everyone needs to understand this point clearly:

*Furthermore, as SHBG concentrations increase, percent FT calculated using our new model shows only a modest decline

 

[rharvey]

According to my math with half-lives, you should wait 10 days before injecting your regular 100mg dose. If that feels like a long time to wait to inject, I would at least wait a week.

Thank you

 

[rharvey]

I agree with Gman, wait a good week and then go back to your original protocol.

Thank you

 

[rharvey]

I'm a little unclear on the dosing because "EOD of 0.2ml" would be 40 mg EOD at 200 mg/mL, which is 140 mg/week.

Hi, the test enth. I have is 1ml = 250mg test

 

[rharvey]

Now why would you go and do such when you had already been given advice in your previous threads!

Anavar or Proviron to lower SHBG

First sub-q pin this morning - advice please





Again everyone needs to get over this hammering down HIGH SHBG to achieve a healthy FT level as again regarding the new research/understanding of SHBG:T binding.....an extremely high TT is in no way needed to achieve a healthy FREE TESTOSTERONE level in cases of men with high SHBG.

Ok Madman, I'm listening. I have re-read your posts. Go low and go slow. Maybe I needed to have the experience I did to open my ears.

 

[Cataceous]

Hi, the test enth. I have is 1ml = 250mg test

Got it. So the increase was to 175 mg per week.

 

[bochinit]

I'm using 100mg per week split in two times and if increase the dosage I became more anxiety and explosive.

 

[Josht9210]

Ok but the question is why does this happen? It happens to me too? I have low shbg, can anyone a swer this

 

[bochinit]

I think is the level of Testosterone or estrogen increasing in the body or something else relate to the high dosage. I got it too on 200mg mark.

For the op: better cut off and go low, adding Proviron is better to free up more FT as you want to. I also will try soon to add Drostanolone on my protocol at same dosage of the test instead of increase it.

 

[rharvey]

I think is the level of Testosterone or estrogen increasing in the body or something else relate to the high dosage. I got it too on 200mg mark.

For the op: better cut off and go low, adding Proviron is better to free up more FT as you want to. I also will try soon to add Drostanolone on my protocol at same dosage of the test instead of increase it.

Hi, how much Proviron per day? Just out of interest.

 

[rharvey]

Ok but the question is why does this happen? It happens to me too? I have low shbg, can anyone a swer this

Hi I read that increasing your dose of T too quickly acts on cortisol and epinephrine,which can cause panic and anxiety.

 

[Josht9210]

Hi I read that increasing your dose of T too quickly acts on cortisol and epinephrine,which can cause panic and anxiety.

Ancedotle or are there studies? Just curious about the process so I can worry less

 

[rharvey]

Ancedotle or are there studies? Just curious about the process so I can worry less

I read it on a forum, not sure if it was a reply to my OP.

 

[bochinit]

Hi, how much Proviron per day? Just out of interest.

One tablet (25mg) per day should do the trick.