Hcg, Pregnenolone Temporary Sex Drive Increase

[Tn198989]

Hello everyone,

Ive been struggling with sex drive ever since starting trt and before.

The only times i had normal sex drive was when i introduced something new to my protocol like a higher dose, hcg and before trt when adding a high dose serm. But its always short lived.

Low dose hcg does nothing for me and i only get a boost when i inject 1500-2000 iu once a week.
5 days ago i added pregnenolone 50mg along with hcg and noticed an increase in sex drive and morning erections.
But again for the last couple of days i am below zero in libido, sensitivity and as a result performance.
My protocol is 175mg t enanthate split in 2 doses and 1500iu hcg once a week

I ve tried trt doses 100mg, 150, 200, 250 with and without hcg and/or ai for at least 2 months each protocol.

All bloodworks (i ve done more than 20) show good numbers on Total T, shbg, e2, prolactin. The latest are total t 900 e2 45, shbg 30, prolactin 12

What else can i do? Should i wait longer for the pregnenolone to stabilize? drop hcg? change dose?

Thanks in advance

 

[locutus]

low sex drive has MANY causes. hormones are one of them. mental struggles, self acceptance, body image issues, relationship issues etc etc. not saying this is you, but it can be the problem
if you hit a wall by looking at hormones, it is time to look elsewhere. i see too many of those in forums.

 

[equel]

low sex drive has MANY causes. hormones are one of them. mental struggles, self acceptance, body image issues, relationship issues etc etc. not saying this is you, but it can be the problem
if you hit a wall by looking at hormones, it is time to look elsewhere. i see too many of those in forums.

Just no

 

[MIP1950]

Just no

Clarify. I've read your posts on T-Nation. You have insights based on personal experience.

 

[MIP1950]

Hello everyone,

Ive been struggling with sex drive ever since starting trt and before.

The only times i had normal sex drive was when i introduced something new to my protocol like a higher dose, hcg and before trt when adding a high dose serm. But its always short lived.

Low dose hcg does nothing for me and i only get a boost when i inject 1500-2000 iu once a week.
5 days ago i added pregnenolone 50mg along with hcg and noticed an increase in sex drive and morning erections.
But again for the last couple of days i am below zero in libido, sensitivity and as a result performance.
My protocol is 175mg t enanthate split in 2 doses and 1500iu hcg once a week

I ve tried trt doses 100mg, 150, 200, 250 with and without hcg and/or ai for at least 2 months each protocol.

All bloodworks (i ve done more than 20) show good numbers on Total T, shbg, e2, prolactin. The latest are total t 900 e2 45, shbg 30, prolactin 12

What else can i do? Should i wait longer for the pregnenolone to stabilize? drop hcg? change dose?

Thanks in advance

I'm similar. Now doing 16 mg, IM, daily, Test E. Been taking 70 mg pregnenolone, daily and recently added sublingual magnesium carbonate(which I was taking orally) to stabilize my mood(treatment resistant bipolar). Strongly anti-depressant. Magnesium is also a vasodilator and improves nitric oxide production. Right now experiencing more erectile function and stronger libido. Nocturnal erections two or three times a week. Too early to judge anything.

 

[drkelp]

10mg preg can effect me profoundly. Have done 100. Would cause big boost in libido for a few days but there would be a subsequent "crash" that lasted for awhile. Everyone's different.

 

[Gman86]

10mg preg can effect me profoundly. Have done 100. Would cause big boost in libido for a few days but there would be a subsequent "crash" that lasted for awhile. Everyone's different.

So 10mg orally gives u all the benefits without any negatives?

 

[Tn198989]

low sex drive has MANY causes. hormones are one of them. mental struggles, self acceptance, body image issues, relationship issues etc etc. not saying this is you, but it can be the problem
if you hit a wall by looking at hormones, it is time to look elsewhere. i see too many of those in forums.

True but I ve searched for years trying to figure out what's wrong, I just saved you all some time by giving you the sort story.
Plus it's not just sex drive. Its Ed too. Even when masturbating, and it gets better for a day or two when I inject hcg, so it doesn't seem like psychological. And lastly it started after stopping my first and last steroid cycle of only t 600mg per week.

 

[Tn198989]

I'm similar. Now doing 16 mg, IM, daily, Test E. Been taking 70 mg pregnenolone, daily and recently added sublingual magnesium carbonate(which I was taking orally) to stabilize my mood(treatment resistant bipolar). Strongly anti-depressant. Magnesium is also a vasodilator and improves nitric oxide production. Right now experiencing more erectile function and stronger libido. Nocturnal erections two or three times a week. Too early to judge anything.

I also take magnesium and zinc. I ve thought of trying every day injections but I have already tried every other day without much difference from 2 times per week

 

[MIP1950]

I also take magnesium and zinc. I ve thought of trying every day injections but I have already tried every other day without much difference from 2 times per week

I'm trying daily, again, because I'm trying to manipulate estradiol. I start putting on weight around the waist, quickly. Daily, perhaps, with it's stability, will lead to gradual weight loss. Maybe not, but nothing to lose.

 

[Systemlord]

Ive been struggling with sex drive ever since starting trt and before.

The only times i had normal sex drive was when i introduced something new to my protocol like a higher dose

I think that men on TRT that struggle with sexual function and libido suffer from metabolic syndrome and dosing changes overcomes these shortfalls temporarily.

I have metabolic syndrome, diabetes and in the past got better sexual function when lifting weights.

Obesity, metabolic syndrome and diabetes are the number one reasons for a secondary hypogonadism diagnosis.

 

[Tn198989]

I agree that there must be something that's being going on besides the usual but I am 33 years old, my blood sugar is 87 on latest blood work (used to be higher before trt but not diabetic high) , blood pressure 110-120 with 60-65 and I got 12-14% body fat so I don't think it's that.

My diet is pretty clean and ever since starting trt I gain muscle much faster so it is doing what it's supposed to do just not below the belt.

For the last 3-4 weeks I ve been getting some morning wood after injecting high doses of hcg 1500iu the day before but it's only the next day.

Just to be clear its not exactly just a libido problem but an arousal problem too.

It's the connection that's not happening. I am also on daily cialis but again if there is no arousal and or libido, cialis alone doesn't help as much.

I am trying to figure how does hcg helps while t doesnt. It could be the fluctuations that help, or the upstream hormones from testosterone although I ve tried pregnenolone and at 50mg per day it causes only anxiety.
The only thing I haven't tried is pt 141 cause I can't get my hands on it, but from what I read it's not for every day so not a permanent treatment.

 

[Tn198989]

I'm trying daily, again, because I'm trying to manipulate estradiol. I start putting on weight around the waist, quickly. Daily, perhaps, with it's stability, will lead to gradual weight loss. Maybe not, but nothing to lose.

If your are putting weight I don't think it's just hormonal. I ve been able to cut normally on high e2. Try garcinia, its always my go to during a cut. It reduces cravings and hunger to a minimum and it's pretty easy to stay on a strict diet.

 

[MIP1950]

If your are putting weight I don't think it's just hormonal. I ve been able to cut normally on high e2. Try garcinia, its always my go to during a cut. It reduces cravings and hunger to a minimum and it's pretty easy to stay on a strict diet.

I'll consider it. Even supplements can negatively impact my mood and sleep, so I've become hesitant to add something new.

 

[MIP1950]

I agree that there must be something that's being going on besides the usual but I am 33 years old, my blood sugar is 87 on latest blood work (used to be higher before trt but not diabetic high) , blood pressure 110-120 with 60-65 and I got 12-14% body fat so I don't think it's that.

My diet is pretty clean and ever since starting trt I gain muscle much faster so it is doing what it's supposed to do just not below the belt.

For the last 3-4 weeks I ve been getting some morning wood after injecting high doses of hcg 1500iu the day before but it's only the next day.

Just to be clear its not exactly just a libido problem but an arousal problem too.

It's the connection that's not happening. I am also on daily cialis but again if there is no arousal and or libido, cialis alone doesn't help as much.

I am trying to figure how does hcg helps while t doesnt. It could be the fluctuations that help, or the upstream hormones from testosterone although I ve tried pregnenolone and at 50mg per day it causes only anxiety.
The only thing I haven't tried is pt 141 cause I can't get my hands on it, but from what I read it's not for every day so not a permanent treatment.

Similar. I can have intense desire but no corresponding erectile function, though, as I've posted, I'm finding that my desire begins to rise in the late afternoon/early evening, culminating in a semi erection around 10 p.m., which I can bring to a full erection that lasts about 10 minutes. As my wife is already sleeping(we sleep separately because we both have sleep problems) I have no way to know if it would last longer if we were in bed.