Can HCG cause significant Nipple pain with low estrogen numbers ???

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Drug350

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After starting TRT @100 MG's weekly for 6 weeks or so, I tried 200 MG's weekly, divided into daily shots. The only time I did not have ANY ED issues whatsoever, and felt great all around, with great sleep, was during the first 3 weeks of TRT (honeymoon phase I'm told). But by week 4, I started having ED issues, less libido, shitty sleep again, and just not feeling great like I did previously. That's why I decided (wrongly) to bump up to the "generic, cookie cutter, 200 MG's weekly Testosterone Cypionate TRT protocol". That didn't change anything accept all my numbers significantly. Same ED, shitty sleep, etc... but I did lose a ton of belly fat and got lean as hell, especially when I crashed my estrogen. My total testosterone got to 1140, Free and Bioavailable were incredibly high (3 to 4 times normal range) , and I started to have nipple sensitivity. I started taking Arimedex that I purchased from a UGL and didn't notice much difference after a few weeks, so I figured it was under dosed and took more. It wasn't underdosed and I crashed my estrogen and it came back at "2", but my nipple pain was gone, along with my erections totally. I reduced my weekly testosterone dose to 80 MG's total, 40 MG's twice a week, and I started taking HCG from a pharmacy, 250 IU's, twice a week (500 IU's total), in hopes of raising my estrogen quicker. Roughly 4 weeks later, my nipples started hurting again, and I assumed my estrogen had climbed back up and I started taking 1/2 MG Arimedex every 5 days. I went for blood work 2 weeks later and my estrogen was "10", total testosterone = 546, Free = 19.3 NGDL, Bioavailable = 452.2, SHBG = 8 nmol. So my estrogen was low, my total testosterone OK, my free & Bioavailable very high, and my SHBG very low. I immediately stopped the arimedex and stayed at 80 MG's weekly testosterone with 500 IU's weekly HCG. Since stopping the arimedex, my nipple pain has increased almost daily. My nipples are now killing me. I can't walk down stairs without having pain and forget about it if they are touched at all. They are killing me. I have no drainage. I do have painful lumps right under the nipples and I cannot take it anymore. Just touching my nipples with my finger hurts a lot. I don't believe my estrogen is sky high. It seems like the HCG is having some serious effect on my nipples and even my balls for that matter. I have painful balls several days a week when I stand. They feel like "blue balls" but it's definitely not from any sexual action. My balls have enlarged since starting HCG, but still not 100%, though they don't look ridiculous like they did when I was on just TRT.
I'm planning on having gyno surgery, sooner rather than later now, because I have to have these glands fully REMOVED. But in the meantime, what should I do ??? What is causing these very painful nipples if my estrogen isn't really high ??? My libido has come back pretty strong thankfully, but I still have issues with ED. I get hard, but I can't stay hard, be it with my GF or by myself. I go limp every time. Cialis doesn't do anything for me either. The only thing that helps significantly is PT-141. When I take that, I get rock hard erections non-stop for around 36 hours. The morning wood is insane and after cumming, I'm rock hard again within minutes, though sometimes I'll lose it for a bit, than hard again, than lose it, etc.....But I don't want to be needing PT-141 all the time.
I'm going to stay at 80 MG's Testosterone Cypionate weekly for awhile but I'm not sure if I should continue this HCG or not. Any advice or suggestions ??? I know I screwed up, but I'm trying to get back on a regular, standard TRT program and see if it can help me. Can HCG directly affect the nipples ??? It seems like I have nipple pain no matter what my estrogen numbers are on this HCG and my Prolactin numbers were never high, no matter what Testosterone dose I took. When I was at 100 MG's weekly or 200 MG's weekly my Prolactin numbers were always low normal so it's not causing my nipple pain like a 19 Nor such as trenbolone or Nandrolone / Deca would. Sorry for the long post, but i needed to try to include everything. Any advice or experiences posted would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!!
 
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After starting TRT @100 MG's weekly for 6 weeks or so, I tried 200 MG's weekly, divided into daily shots. The only time I did not have ANY ED issues whatsoever, and felt great all around, with great sleep, was during the first 3 weeks of TRT (honeymoon phase I'm told). But by week 4, I started having ED issues, less libido, shitty sleep again, and just not feeling great like I did previously. That's why I decided (wrongly) to bump up to the "generic, cookie cutter, 200 MG's weekly Testosterone Cypionate TRT protocol". That didn't change anything accept all my numbers significantly. Same ED, shitty sleep, etc... but I did lose a ton of belly fat and got lean as hell, especially when I crashed my estrogen. My total testosterone got to 1140, Free and Bioavailable were incredibly high (3 to 4 times normal range) , and I started to have nipple sensitivity. I started taking Arimedex that I purchased from a UGL and didn't notice much difference after a few weeks, so I figured it was under dosed and took more. It wasn't underdosed and I crashed my estrogen and it came back at "2", but my nipple pain was gone, along with my erections totally. I reduced my weekly testosterone dose to 80 MG's total, 40 MG's twice a week, and I started taking HCG from a pharmacy, 250 IU's, twice a week (500 IU's total), in hopes of raising my estrogen quicker. Roughly 4 weeks later, my nipples started hurting again, and I assumed my estrogen had climbed back up and I started taking 1/2 MG Arimedex every 5 days. I went for blood work 2 weeks later and my estrogen was "10", total testosterone = 546, Free = 19.3 NGDL, Bioavailable = 452.2, SHBG = 8 nmol. So my estrogen was low, my total testosterone OK, my free & Bioavailable very high, and my SHBG very low. I immediately stopped the arimedex and stayed at 80 MG's weekly testosterone with 500 IU's weekly HCG. Since stopping the arimedex, my nipple pain has increased almost daily. My nipples are now killing me. I can't walk down stairs without having pain and forget about it if they are touched at all. They are killing me. I have no drainage. I do have painful lumps right under the nipples and I cannot take it anymore. Just touching my nipples with my finger hurts a lot. I don't believe my estrogen is sky high. It seems like the HCG is having some serious effect on my nipples and even my balls for that matter. I have painful balls several days a week when I stand. They feel like "blue balls" but it's definitely not from any sexual action. My balls have enlarged since starting HCG, but still not 100%, though they don't look ridiculous like they did when I was on just TRT.
I'm planning on having gyno surgery, sooner rather than later now, because I have to have these glands fully REMOVED. But in the meantime, what should I do ??? What is causing these very painful nipples if my estrogen isn't really high ??? My libido has come back pretty strong thankfully, but I still have issues with ED. I get hard, but I can't stay hard, be it with my GF or by myself. I go limp every time. Cialis doesn't do anything for me either. The only thing that helps significantly is PT-141. When I take that, I get rock hard erections non-stop for around 36 hours. The morning wood is insane and after cumming, I'm rock hard again within minutes, though sometimes I'll lose it for a bit, than hard again, than lose it, etc.....But I don't want to be needing PT-141 all the time.
I'm going to stay at 80 MG's Testosterone Cypionate weekly for awhile but I'm not sure if I should continue this HCG or not. Any advice or suggestions ??? I know I screwed up, but I'm trying to get back on a regular, standard TRT program and see if it can help me. Can HCG directly affect the nipples ??? It seems like I have nipple pain no matter what my estrogen numbers are on this HCG and my Prolactin numbers were never high, no matter what Testosterone dose I took. When I was at 100 MG's weekly or 200 MG's weekly my Prolactin numbers were always low normal so it's not causing my nipple pain like a 19 Nor such as trenbolone or Nandrolone / Deca would. Sorry for the long post, but i needed to try to include everything. Any advice or experiences posted would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!!
I think you should get off the hcg for a while, or try adding in some tamoxifen.
 

Drug350

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I think I have some Tamoxifen. I can't wait to have these f__kin glands removed. I'm going to fly to Texas to a place that specializes in bodybuilders gyno and removing the glands completely as opposed to a regular plastic surgeon that may leave part of the glands, therefore leaving me in a situation where this could become a problem once again in the future.
 

Mastodont

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I think I have some Tamoxifen. I can't wait to have these f__kin glands removed. I'm going to fly to Texas to a place that specializes in bodybuilders gyno and removing the glands completely as opposed to a regular plastic surgeon that may leave part of the glands, therefore leaving me in a situation where this could become a problem once again in the future.
I was once considering the procedure myself, aesthetical reasons as well as oversensitivity and discomfort at times, the only downside for that would be less enjoyment in sex, especially if you enjoy someone sucking on the nipple, as i understood it, the gland removal would take away the feel completely.
 
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