Semaglutide Forum: Game Changer for Weight Loss

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Mark A. Moyad, MD, MPH & Martin M. Miner, MD, discuss the potential benefits of semaglutide, a newly approved weight-loss drug.

Introduction: The Road to Real Weight Loss Solutions​


Host:
This is another great segment with Dr. Marty Miner — physician extraordinaire, clinical professor of Family Medicine and Urology at Miriam Hospital, and one of the pioneering minds behind a legitimate men's health center at a major institution. He’s been doing this for decades, focusing on helping men improve their health—both mentally and physically.


If anyone has questions about men's health centers, Dr. Miner is always on my shortlist of experts.

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The "Roadkill" of Past Weight Loss Drugs​


Host:
In this segment—one of our last together—I want to talk about weight loss. But more specifically, I want to title it: "The Roadkill That Was: The Damage of U.S. Weight Loss Drugs Until Recently."

Let me explain. I jotted down a list of past weight loss drugs that have come and gone:

  • CNS stimulants (still around, but risky)
  • Lipase inhibitors (like over-the-counter Orlistat)
  • Opioid antagonists with amino ketones
  • Sympathomimetics
  • And, of course, sibutramine — marketed as Meridia. Huge global drug, then pulled for raising blood pressure and stroke risk.

Over my 30-year career, I’ve never been excited about pharmaceutical weight loss solutions. They all came with strings attached—sure, you might lose weight, but at what cardiovascular cost? You’d think weight loss would help the heart, but not with these meds.


Dr. Miner:
Absolutely. They were almost all stimulants—phentermine, fen-phen—they created a hypermetabolic, hyperdynamic state. People felt like they were on Adderall. Sure, they’d lose 5–6% of their weight, but their blood pressure would skyrocket. Long-term, it was unsustainable and dangerous.


Host:
Exactly. I don’t even want to give them credit. They were ineffective and definitely not heart-healthy.


Enter the “Game Changer”: Semaglutide (Wegovy)​


Host:
Now let’s pivot to something different—Wegovy, or semaglutide. Did I say that right?


Dr. Miner:
Yes, that’s correct.


Host:
People are calling it a "game changer." I know that’s an overused term, but this time, it feels justified. The average weight loss is over 15%. That’s massive. For comparison, most older drugs gave you 5% weight loss—if you were lucky.


Dr. Miner:
That’s right. In fact, Wegovy shows 15–18% weight loss in studies running over 68 weeks with more than 4,500 participants. It’s extraordinarily safe and more effective than anything we’ve seen before, even rivaling bariatric surgery.


What’s more compelling is that the lower-dose version used in diabetics improves not just weight, but also cardiovascular and renal outcomes. These benefits are currently being studied in non-diabetics as well.


A Metabolic Revolution with Broader Benefits​


Dr. Miner:
What we have now is a medication that doesn’t just reduce weight—it improves almost every metric of metabolic syndrome:


  • Blood pressure
  • Lipids
  • Insulin resistance
  • Weight

And it's administered just once a week via subcutaneous injection. An oral version also exists (Rybelsus), though we don’t yet know if it has the same effectiveness.


Host:
Wow. I don’t often see you endorse medications like this, so if you're saying this might be the real deal, I take notice.


Dr. Miner:
It truly is. It’s also an opportunity to change how we talk about obesity. Instead of labeling someone an “obese 45-year-old male,” we need to say “a male with obesity.” Language matters. We’ve stigmatized obesity and discouraged people from seeking help. This medication could be a safe, non-invasive alternative to surgery.


Barriers: Cost and Access​


Host:
Here’s where I still have concerns: cost. It’s nearly $900/month out of pocket, and most insurance doesn’t cover it—yet. It was only FDA approved in June, and insurers typically lag by about two years before updating formularies.


Dr. Miner:
Exactly. If insurers understood the full-spectrum benefits of a 15% weight reduction, they’d see the long-term savings in chronic disease management. But for now, cost and limited coverage are major barriers.


Host:
That 15% is incredible. Take a 300-pound person—that’s 45 pounds off. And we haven’t even discussed the hormonal impacts. You must be curious about what this kind of weight loss does to testosterone levels.


Dr. Miner:
Absolutely. Bariatric surgery has shown that testosterone levels can increase by several hundred points in some men. I'd love to study whether semaglutide offers similar hormonal benefits without surgery.


Broader Health Outcomes: Beyond the Scale​


Host:
Coincidentally, this same week the Cleveland Clinic published data showing that significant weight loss from bariatric surgery lowers risk of:


  • Hospitalization
  • Supplemental oxygen needs
  • Severe COVID-19

So the weight loss benefits are not just cosmetic—they're life-saving.


Dr. Miner:
Yes, and if semaglutide can replicate those outcomes, it’ll revolutionize how we treat obesity—not just in endocrinology but across specialties like urology, cardiology, and mental health.


Looking Ahead: More Research, More Hope​


Host:
You really think this is the first pharmacologic weight-loss tool that lives up to the hype?


Dr. Miner:
Yes. Though it's injectable, it's manageable. Oral GLP-1 agonists may eventually catch up. But for now, this is the first option that combines efficacy with safety and could be used beyond diabetes management.


Host:
And to be clear, this wasn’t done in isolation. In the trials, participants were also asked to:


  • Reduce caloric intake by 500/day
  • Do 150 minutes of exercise/week

So this drug augments healthy habits—it doesn’t replace them.


Dr. Miner:
Exactly. Diet and exercise remain critical to longevity. But this is the first tool that delivers substantial weight loss in a predictable, measurable way.


Final Thoughts: A New Era for Weight Management​


Host:
Dr. Miner, thank you for helping me introduce this compound. I usually poke fun at weight-loss pharmacology, but I can’t this time. It’s the first medication that seems to pass every test—safety, efficacy, long-term benefits.


Dr. Miner:
I’m with you. I hope more physicians begin exploring it, especially in specialties like urology, where metabolic health and hormonal health are so closely tied.


Host:
Absolutely. Thanks again, Dr. Miner. I’ll see you at the next conference—we’ll talk more controversies then.

Semaglutide is a medication that has been approved by the FDA to treat type 2 diabetes and has also been approved for obesity management under the brand name Wegovy [1][3]. It helps with weight loss by suppressing appetite, which can lead to a reduced intake of food [2].



Semaglutide works by mimicking a hormone called glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1), which is naturally produced by the body. GLP-1 plays a role in regulating blood sugar levels and appetite. Semaglutide affects several processes in the body, including increasing the release of insulin, reducing the release of glucagon, and delaying gastric emptying [2].

The increase in insulin helps lower high blood sugar, while the reduction in glucagon release also contributes to better blood sugar control. Delaying gastric emptying means that food stays in the stomach for a longer time, which can help with satiety and decrease appetite [2].

The typical dose of semaglutide for weight loss is 2.4 milligrams, administered weekly as subcutaneous (under the skin) self-injections [3]. While semaglutide has shown promising results in weight loss, it is important to note that its effectiveness is dependent on continued use, and some experts are skeptical about its long-term safety and limitations [1].

In semaglutide studies, participants experienced significant weight loss. In one clinical trial, participants who received semaglutide lost 5% or more, 10% or more, 15% or more, and 20% or more of their baseline body weight at week 68, compared to those who received a placebo [1]. On average, participants taking semaglutide lost 15% of their body weight [2]. Some individuals lost as much as 40 pounds while participating in a clinical trial of the drug [2].

In another study, after 68 weeks of treatment, the semaglutide group lost an average of 16% of their baseline body weight, equal to 37 pounds. This was compared to a 5.7% average weight loss, or 14 pounds, for those assigned to intensive behavioral therapy combined with a placebo [3]. These results demonstrate the significant weight loss potential of semaglutide in clinical trials.

There are a few ways to save on semaglutide for weight loss, which is available as the brand-name medication Wegovy. One option is to use a copay savings card from the manufacturer. If you have commercial insurance, you may be eligible to pay as little as $25 for Wegovy using this savings card [1]. More information about the copay savings card and other coverage options can be found on the Wegovy website [2].

It's important to note that the cost of Wegovy before insurance is around $1,627 per month, and coverage for weight loss drugs like Wegovy can vary widely depending on the type of insurance you have and your location [3]. The $25 copay card provided by the manufacturer may help ease the cost, but only if your insurance plan covers the medication [3].

A more affordable way to get semaglutide when insurance does not pay is to have your doctor fax a prescription to a compounding pharmacy like EmpowerPharmacy.com. Their price runs approximately $350 per month.
 
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The caveat to that is that the majority of the negative side effects happen to those who are obese. Active people using these drugs don't have the same issues such as muscle wasting.

All in all, I think this may be a phase of these drugs that will eventually pass on to improved versions.
 
The caveat to that is that the majority of the negative side effects happen to those who are obese. Active people using these drugs don't have the same issues such as muscle wasting.

All in all, I think this may be a phase of these drugs that will eventually pass on to improved versions.
I am not obese by any stretch and experienced gastroparesis, gallbladder sludge and now stones due to being on a GLP-1 for a little over a month. This was NOT from any weight loss, mind you. These are known side effects. I expect more users of these GLP-1 meds to have significant gut issues as time goes on. For all the benefits, I would steer clear until improved version are available.
 
I am not obese by any stretch and experienced gastroparesis, gallbladder sludge and now stones due to being on a GLP-1 for a little over a month. This was NOT from any weight loss, mind you. These are known side effects. I expect more users of these GLP-1 meds to have significant gut issues as time goes on. For all the benefits, I would steer clear until improved version are available.
I completely understand. I did not have a good experience myself. However, the majority of those on these drugs do not have these side effects. It is working great for my wife and other people I know who are all very active and fit.

I had a rebound effect of increased hunger and gastric distress that has just now cleared. I am by no means defending these drugs, just reporting personal, anecdotal experience. I do however hold out some hope that future versions can eliminate the side effects that plague some users of the drugs. But, as all things go... maybe not.
 
I am not obese by any stretch and experienced gastroparesis, gallbladder sludge and now stones due to being on a GLP-1 for a little over a month. This was NOT from any weight loss, mind you. These are known side effects. I expect more users of these GLP-1 meds to have significant gut issues as time goes on. For all the benefits, I would steer clear until improved version are available.
Tirzepatide has changed my life for the better. It was the 2nd best decision I've made concerning pharma products, and the 1st was TRT once dialed in.

The good: when TRT & Tirz are combined with intense effort workouts, say goodbye to body fat and say hello to lean mass . I've made great changes in body composition and my overall energy has skyrocketed. My workouts are high intensity & perfect for my goals.

The bad: the side effects suck but typically last 24-48 hours max and it feels like a light hangover, totally worth it if you're stuck in fat land and everything else stops working.
Some foods & drinks also intensify side effects and must learn what that is through experience. For example, I couldn't drink more than 2 drinks or I would get the worst hangover. I couldn't overeat anything, even broccoli, which would cause major digestive issues but I learned to eat smaller and more frequently. Also dehydration sneaks up quickly so you need to increase electrolytes and fluids big time or constipation and midnight cramps pay a visit.

That said, every single one of us is different and may experience different results, but if you're stuck in fat land, speak with your doctor, get a script, and give it a try.
 

Prescribing Ozempic and Wegovy for Weight Loss is Associated with an Increased Risk of Erectile Dysfunction and Hypogonadism in Non-Diabetic Males​

B. Liao, C. Able, +1 author T. Kohn
Published in Journal of Sexual Medicine 1 February 2024
Medicine


Non-diabetic males with a prescription of semaglutide have a significantly higher risk of developing ED and testosterone deficiency, and these rates were surprised that these rates were so much higher than those not receiving semaglutide as it was expected that weight loss drugs would improve erectile function.

Abstract
The use of antidiabetic medications, such as metformin or sulfonylureas, can have diverse effects on sex hormones, potentially influencing erectile function. While both Ozempic and Wegovy (semaglutide) include sexual dysfunction as a side effect of the medication, no study has assessed how frequently men will experience sexual dysfunction with these medications. Recently, semaglutide was approved in June of 2021 for weight loss in non-diabetic patients and has exploded in popularity. Our objective is to assess the risk of developing ED in non-diabetic males after starting semaglutide using a large claims-based database. We queried the TriNetX Research database, a comprehensive insurance claims database. Our study cohort included males aged 18 to 50 who have been prescribed semaglutide after June 1st, 2021. We excluded individuals with a history of pelvic radiation, prostatectomy, pulmonary hypertension, diabetes mellitus, or any hemoglobin A1c measurement ≥7%. Propensity-matching was performed between the cohorts for age, ethnicity, race, BMI, hypertension, sleep apnea, and hyperlipidemia. Our primary outcome was comparing the proportion of men that received an ED diagnosis and/or prescription for phosphodiesterase-5 inhibitors (PDE5i) from one day to any time after the index prescription of semaglutide. The secondary outcome of interest included the risk of developing testosterone deficiency. Risk was reported using relative risk (RR) with 95% confidence intervals (CI). Statistical significance was set using a two-sided alpha at 0.05. We found 2,117 non-diabetic males with a prescription of semaglutide, which were compared to an equivalent number of propensity matched controls (Table 1). Compared to matched controls, males with a semaglutide prescription were significantly more likely to be diagnosed with ED and/or prescribed PDE5i (1.4%) when compared to control males who were never prescribed semaglutide (0.14%) (RR: 10.0, 95% CI [3.05 – 32.82]). Similarly, males with a prescription for semaglutide were more likely to receive a subsequent diagnose of testosterone deficiency (3.83%) compared to controls (1.7%), (RR: 2.25, 95% CI [1.53 – 3.32]) from one day to any time after the index prescription. In this claims-based analysis, we found that non-diabetic males with a prescription of semaglutide have a significantly higher risk of developing ED and testosterone deficiency. Rates of erectile dysfunction in men prescribed semaglutide are overall low at 1.4% but, we were surprised that these rates were so much higher than those not receiving semaglutide as we expected that weight loss drugs would improve erectile function. Further studies are needed to assess the impact of semaglutide in non-diabetic men to assess how this drug impacts the male hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis. Despite its increasing popularity for weight loss, both clinicians and patients should be aware of potential hormonal effects when discussing and considering the medication.
 
 
Concerning data.

 
Concerning data.

Is it possible that a reduced calorie intake is pushing them over the edge? This cohort is close to being morbidly obese, which on its own may have a suppressive effect on the HPTA "... diet-induced obesity (Quennell et al. 2011) and diabetes reduce hypothalamic kisspeptin expression ..."[R] Then a calorie deficit hits from the other end: "In animal models, undernutrition results in hypogonadism with reduced expression of Kiss1 within the hypothalamus..."

These factors could eventually resolve if a healthy weight is reached and diet can be normalized.
 
Everyone I know that's on semaglutide has had excellent results. Improvement in their cholesterol panels and diabetes markers. I have not heard one person complain of any adverse effects.

I believe it also helps reduce the chance of many cancers and helps improve kidney function.
 
Everyone I know that's on semaglutide has had excellent results. Improvement in their cholesterol panels and diabetes markers. I have not heard one person complain of any adverse effects.

I believe it also helps reduce the chance of many cancers and helps improve kidney function.
Sorry to rain on your Ozempic parade Vince, but semaglutide shuts me down completely. It definitely decreases appetite, but constipation is horrendous for me. My wife handles it just fine.
 

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