Post TRT - Libido is DEAD :(

... proclaiming that 75 mg is not physiological for the vast majority of men. ...

Never said that. You're thinking of 100 mg TC/week, where the 10 mg T/day is more than the vast majority of men would ever make naturally.

With regard to your AI question, what you posted here and what you asked it are two very different things. Why not just ask it if what you said is true instead of re-writing it. Here’s the response I got:

You failed to give the AI the context, which is the distinction between TRT dosing at 5 mg T/day (50 mg TC/week in divided doses) versus dosing that declines to as little as 2-3 mg T/day (50 mg TC/week in one dose). Here is the followup question in my AI thread:

Question to AI:
Given this information, is it reasonable to suggest that a majority of hypogonadal men who start testosterone replacement therapy at a dose of 5 mg/day of testosterone will see a resolution of such symptoms, even if they may not be optimized?​
Answer:
Yes, it is reasonable to suggest that a majority of properly diagnosed hypogonadal men (confirmed low morning total T + symptoms) starting a standard dose equivalent to ~5 mg/day systemic testosterone delivery (e.g., typical starting gel regimens like AndroGel 1% 5 g delivering ~50 mg testosterone topically, with ~10% nominal absorption) will experience at least partial resolution or meaningful improvement in threshold-dependent sexual symptoms like low libido/desire and reduced spontaneous/morning erections—even if the dose isn't fully titrated to "optimized" mid-normal levels.
Why This Holds Based on the Threshold Effect
The threshold/saturation model means that restoring T from frankly low levels (<8–12 nmol/L or <230–350 ng/dL) to low-normal range (~300–500+ ng/dL) is often sufficient for libido, sexual thoughts, spontaneous erections, and related function. Standard starting doses frequently achieve this in many men, especially those with moderate-to-severe deficiency.​
  • Clinical response rates: In real-world and trial data, ~60–70%+ of symptomatic hypogonadal men report noticeable improvements in libido, sexual desire/motivation, erections (especially spontaneous/morning), and overall sexual satisfaction within weeks to months on TRT. For example:
    • One observational study found ~70% reported benefits in erections, libido, energy, and/or mood by 3 months, with ~63% continuing at 12 months with sustained subjective benefit.
    • Gel studies (starting doses delivering normal-range T) showed rapid improvements in sexual function scores (e.g., within 30 days, sustained), with libido and desire often responding earliest (plateauing by ~3 weeks).
    • Meta-analyses confirm small-to-moderate benefits on desire/libido and erectile function vs. placebo in hypogonadal men, with stronger effects when baseline T is lower.
  • Dose relevance: Starting gels (e.g., 50 mg topical testosterone) typically raise levels into the low-to-mid normal range for many, aligning with the threshold. Not everyone normalizes perfectly on the initial dose (absorption varies), but enough do for majority symptom relief without immediate up-titration. Studies often allow adjustment (e.g., to 75–100 mg topical), but initial responses are common at entry doses.
"Majority" is a fair characterization, but individual results vary. Factors favoring better response include:​
  • Lower baseline T (clearer deficiency).
  • Primarily sexual symptoms tied to T (vs. vascular/neurologic ED, where TRT helps desire more than rigid erections alone).
  • No major comorbidities interfering (e.g., uncontrolled diabetes, obesity, medications).
Response is not 100%—some need dose titration, adjuncts (e.g., PDE5i for ED), or don't respond robustly due to other causes. Effects on pure erectile function can be more modest/partial than on desire.​
Key Caveats and Clinical Context
  • Not optimized ≠ ineffective: Many see benefits at low-normal T; further increases yield diminishing returns for sexual domains per the threshold data.
  • Monitoring is essential: Guidelines recommend confirming low T (two morning totals), assessing symptoms, and titrating based on follow-up levels (~4–6 weeks) and response. Aim for mid-normal range overall, but sexual symptoms often improve earlier.
  • Risks/benefits: TRT improves these symptoms in responders but carries risks (e.g., erythrocytosis, prostate monitoring). Not everyone qualifies or benefits.
  • "Majority" evidence level: Supported by RCTs, meta-analyses, and observational data, though exact percentages vary by study population, definition of "resolution" (partial improvement vs. full normalization), and duration.
In summary, yes—it's a reasonable, evidence-aligned expectation for most hypogonadal men on a standard starting dose. Consult an experienced clinician for diagnosis, baseline labs, individualized dosing, and monitoring rather than self-management. Lifestyle factors (weight loss, exercise) often amplify benefits.​
 

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