Experience switching to cream from injections? Low DHT haven't ever felt good on injections.

[Tylurnt]

I havent been able to dial in with injections. Ive tried both cyp and E, did subq EOD for longest time, then tried daily subq, daily IM, and last resort was 2x a wk IM which im currently almost 4 weeks into. Going to wait 6 weeks and pull labs but its not looking like this protocol is gonna help me feel better at all.

I have low SHBG ... 9.5-11.5, and chronically very low DHT....and no ive never taken finasteride.

My symptoms are anhedonia, anxiety and just generally feeling unwell. Ive had moments ive felt great randomly... like taking a week off injections. And also more recently, when I switched to 2x a week, one day about 4hrs after my injection I started to feel awesome...clean energy, motivation and happy feelings! ...gone the next day. Im just not sure whats going on with me. Ive trialed pregnenolone but not for longer than a week as it starts having side effects.. (are we supposed to stick it out like trt and let it balance out?) Once in a while pregnenolone makes me feel great.

One option ive considered is keeping my protocol the same but adding in small dose cream to raise DHT... im starting to wonder if low DHT may be why I dont feel good on injections.

If I decide to go all cream, how was the transition for you? Was it rough for a while? Did you take atleast a week off injections before starting? And how do you translate dosing from injections to cream? Thank you all for you help and support!

 

[WhiteMale]

I started treating low DHT along with my Cyp injections and like you have low SHBG. I eventually transitioned all the way to cream and never looked back. Cream to the scrotum sends my DHT off the charts. Look at if you need to use the cream more than once per day. I did a complicated time consuming effort to run labs through the day that verified how fast I metabolised Test.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

What @WhiteMale said.

 

[Tylurnt]

I started treating low DHT along with my Cyp injections and like you have low SHBG. I eventually transitioned all the way to cream and never looked back. Cream to the scrotum sends my DHT off the charts. Look at if you need to use the cream more than once per day. I did a complicated time consuming effort to run labs through the day that verified how fast I metabolised Test.

What were your symptoms before you transitioned to the cream?

 

[WhiteMale]

My problem was a still is that I aromatase at a high rate and DHT converts much less or not at all, reason I started treating DHT. Me and My Nurse never found a reason that I convert so much to Estrogen. High labs and plenty of symptoms; weak erections, inability to climax, body acne, heart palpitations. We never found a dosing or strategy to otherwise inhibit that, this was a years long methodical process and it's the reason I tell everyone of you, if you need an AI< then you should use it if you've covered those bases and it's still a problem. Too I moved to testing Free Estrogen and less on LC/MS/MS UltraSensitive.

 

[Dicky]

Like you, I never felt completely well on test cypionate and after being on it for 3-4 years I switched to part injections part cream (200mg/ml). After a while I went towards using mostly cream and a small injection of 20-40mg/week of cypionate. I tend to feel better on the combination of cypionate and cream than I do just cream.

I have never tested my DHT levels, but from what I have read, creams do a better job of raising DHT.

FWIW, I have pretty high SHBG, usually between 55-70. I also do not aromatize very much and my E2 is usually between 20-28 pg/ml

 

[Mr.63]

Like you, I never felt completely well on test cypionate and after being on it for 3-4 years I switched to part injections part cream (200mg/ml). After a while I went towards using mostly cream and a small injection of 20-40mg/week of cypionate. I tend to feel better on the combination of cypionate and cream than I do just cream.

I have never tested my DHT levels, but from what I have read, creams do a better job of raising DHT.

FWIW, I have pretty high SHBG, usually between 55-70. I also do not aromatize very much and my E2 is usually between 20-28 pg/ml

Are you applying the creme twice per day? And at what dosage?

And are u injecting the cyp once or twice per week?

Thanks in advance!

 

[phalloguy100]

I think I tried compounded cream once a long time ago. It made me horny as a ram, and depression was gone pretty quickly, but it reduced my testicles to raisins, if not smaller. Plus it was so expensive compared to injections. The biggest issue for me was that, just like gels on the shoulder, it didn't absorb consistently. Sometimes too much, sometimes too little and my labs showed that.

Maybe you're not dialed in quite yet? I am taking anastrazole because I also aromatize easily, but I have also discovered that TRT doesn't seem to make feel well until TT is slightly above 700.