Doc wants me to take 1000- 1500 IU 3x a week with test

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Doc wants me on HCG 1000 IU- 1500IU 3x a week.

Is there any reliable study out there that backs this as evidence.

Doc that states he would like to keep my Fertility system alive. He would like half testerone to be exogenous and half endogenous.


I haven't read any study online which says this to be true?

Most pro fertility protocols are either

Test (100-200mg week) + HCG 250-500 3x a week or EOD

I would like to keep my fertility system alive while on TRT but nothing I see online backs the doctors claim

Is there anyone here that can provide insight on this?
 
my last search pointed me to something like 500-1000IU/week to preserve 100% testicle function(may be wrong), I've been experimenting with various doses of HCG since I got an ultra cheap source. what happened at high doses to me, 3x1kIU or less even, is that it ramped my E2 sky high and I felt extremely anxious/agitated. I knew its e2 cause an AI fixed it within a day or so. even 3x500IU is too high. long story, but I ran 3x1K for a long time, but anytime I would go over 25-30MG Tprop ED i get super jittery. it was the damn e2 not test. when I lowered the HCG i can do 50MG ED (yes i know its a damn small AAS cycle) and have 0 issues whatsoever. tldr you will get 0 benefits at that dose on TRT, but potentially all the sides
 
Doc wants me on HCG 1000 IU- 1500IU 3x a week.

Is there any reliable study out there that backs this as evidence.

Doc that states he would like to keep my Fertility system alive. He would like half testerone to be exogenous and half endogenous.


I haven't read any study online which says this to be true?

Most pro fertility protocols are either

Test (100-200mg week) + HCG 250-500 3x a week or EOD

I would like to keep my fertility system alive while on TRT but nothing I see online backs the doctors claim

Is there anyone here that can provide insight on this?
I think the low dose HCG protocols (like 250-300 IU 2-3x/wk) are for maintaining some degree of intratesticular T and E2 production to avoid testicular atrophy and preserve some endogenous production. The higher dose protocols like yours are more for fertility preservation or recovery, as this requires higher doses. I don't have a reference handy, but if I have time I'll see what I have on this.
 
Doc wants me on HCG 1000 IU- 1500IU 3x a week.

Is there any reliable study out there that backs this as evidence.

Doc that states he would like to keep my Fertility system alive. He would like half testerone to be exogenous and half endogenous.


I haven't read any study online which says this to be true?

Most pro fertility protocols are either

Test (100-200mg week) + HCG 250-500 3x a week or EOD

I would like to keep my fertility system alive while on TRT but nothing I see online backs the doctors claim

Is there anyone here that can provide insight on this?

Doc wants me on HCG 1000 IU- 1500IU 3x a week.

This is overkill off the hop!

Even then many can maintain/preserve fertility using lower weekly doses.




Doc that states he would like to keep my Fertility system alive. He would like half testerone to be exogenous and half endogenous.


Does not work like this as the main driver for increasing your T when using exogenous T + hCG is the testosterone.

Yes you will also get a bump in T and estradiol depending on the dose used when adding in the hCG but the bump in T will not be significant.

The main purpose of adding hCG when using exogenous T is to preserve/maintain fertility and prevent/minimize testicular atrophy.

The use of exogenous testosterone results in the suppression of ITT (intra-testicular testosterone) which is critical for sperm production.

Hcg mimics LH and will keep the Leydig cells active (producing some degree of ITT).

The main goal when using hCG is to restore physiological ITT levels and in order to achieve such a minimum effective dose would be needed (125-500 IU) and 250-500 IU would be the sweet spot to stimulate maximum ITT (intratesticular testosterone) production which should have a strong impact on minimizing/preventing testicular atrophy and maintaining fertility.

If you want to maintain fertility let alone prevent/minimize testicular atrophy 250-500IU 3X weekly or EOD would suffice.

Even then keep in mind when it comes to sperm production some men will need much higher doses of hCG and if this does not do the trick then FSH would be thrown in.

You should have had an SA done before you jumped on T so you would know where your baseline sat.

Any doctor in the know treating a man for low-T that wanted to preserve/maintain fertility would tell you that it would be in your best interest to get a. baseline SA or freeze sperm if need be!








 
Doc wants me on HCG 1000 IU- 1500IU 3x a week.

Is there any reliable study out there that backs this as evidence.

Doc that states he would like to keep my Fertility system alive. He would like half testerone to be exogenous and half endogenous.


I haven't read any study online which says this to be true?

Most pro fertility protocols are either

Test (100-200mg week) + HCG 250-500 3x a week or EOD

I would like to keep my fertility system alive while on TRT but nothing I see online backs the doctors claim

Is there anyone here that can provide insight on this?
Personally, I like injecting HCG. I inject 500 IU of HCG every third day. I combine both T and HCG in the same syringe. There are some members that HCG increases their estrogen too much and others needed to keep their testicles alive and to have a good, strong libido like I do
 
Hey! Thanks for your input.

Appreciate the feedback.Yes-

we're completing a semen analysis prior to starting.

What he also mentioned was low dose hcg is ineffective against exogenous Testerone.

He said the low dose T essentially keeps your testes and fertility running to a certain degree but not fully active.

He recommends a higher amount to not only keep my system on but to keep me fertile.He's definitely a smart guy from the many times we spoke.

I have a background in pharmacology so I can understand how these drugs work. I just don't see any studies or theory out there on 1000 or 1500 IU 3x a week.

The most I see is 500IU EOD of HCG.
 

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