HCG monotherapy at 1000 IU 3x a week. Do I need PCT

[Johnny08910]

I have been having low test symptoms so my dr decided to do hcg mono at 1000 IU 3x a week for 2 months. When I asked him if pct is required he said no. Is hcg suppressive for 2 months use and do I need pct after?

 

[tareload]

I have been having low test symptoms so my dr decided to do hcg mono at 1000 IU 3x a week for 2 months. When I asked him if pct is required he said no. Is hcg suppressive for 2 months use and do I need pct after?

Overkill at 1000 IU 3x per week. More like 400 IU 2-3x per week to start. If secondary you should get a decent bump.

Pct after hcg monotherapy? Nah. But you could run an AI low dose for a couple weeks if you wanted to.

 

[Johnny08910]

Overkill at 1000 IU 3x per week. More like 400 IU 2-3x per week to start. If secondary you should get a decent bump.

Pct after hcg monotherapy? Nah. But you could run an AI low dose for a couple weeks if you wanted to.

Got you. I have been on it for 2 weeks now with no effects. Does it mean it's probably not going to work? Some context: I only have one testicle with normal sperm analysis and 600 ng test at 22.

 

[bixt]

But you could run an AI low dose for a couple weeks if you wanted to.

Have you seen the reddit posts on AI monotherapy? It works completely different, like a SERM, raises T, LH, FH all very high, does not reduce E2 compared to baseline, in fact the E2 often ends up higher than before starting. It's completely counter intuitive, I had a WTF moment. Heres one example (and many more if you search all the usual places):

https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/e01gz8

 

[bixt]

For anyone wondering, that kind of E2 was not produced by aromatisation in tissues (which would be nil) but rather inside the testes. "ITE2".

 

[tareload]

Have you seen the reddit posts on AI monotherapy? It works completely different, like a SERM, raises T, LH, FH all very high, does not reduce E2 compared to baseline, in fact the E2 often ends up higher than before starting. It's completely counter intuitive, I had a WTF moment. Heres one example (and many more if you search all the usual places):

https://www.reddit.com/r/Testosterone/comments/e01gz8

Nah I don't do reddit but have done AI monotherapy with anastrozole. That was not my experience.

Have posted on letrozole over at TNation. It does address intra-testicular aromatization btw and passes blood brain barrier.

Long thread. Man I used to go on and on. Lots of references.

Help/Advice Interpreting My Labs? Fertility After Blast/Cruise

Yes, you read well. I highlighted that sentence just for you. I’ll see if I can find the reference where the authors flat out state that AIs do not inhibit estrogen production in the testicles period. Then there’s a few more references where the hand wave is made that molar concentration...

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Had to make another account just to look at my own posts LMAO.

 

[bixt]

Man I used to go on and on. Lots of references.

You were definitely in the zone there!

Logged on after months. I see your mate Robroy is around again...

edit: From the posts I don't think it's the same guy

 

[tareload]

You were definitely in the zone there!

Logged on after months. I see your mate Robroy is around again...

edit: From the posts I don't think it's the same guy

No robroy over there is equel on here. It is hilarious to keep track.

Robroy (excelmale) = yeti308/carma/one other douchey name I can't remember (tnation)

Equel (excelmale) = robroy (tnation) / he lost his password for equel on tnation he said.

Lol.

BTW robroy (here) and I are getting along great. Still waiting @RobRoy. Miss you big fella.

 

[bixt]

Great to see equel (now Robroy) back in action at T nation! Persistent little bugger, trying everything and anything not caring who says what. Great comedy too. Says madman banned him here for calling him grandpa LOLOLOLOLOL I had a great laugh