deca/NPP add on with lowering base T?

t_spacemonkey

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I have a T dose dillema; I feel pretty shitty when T goes below 140mg or so. no libido/energy/depression etc.
at 180-200mg/week I feel good, but getting a bit overstimulated/anxiety, some insomnia.
my last reading at 180mg/week were: total T - 507 ng/dl - free T - 24.2 pg/ML (labcorp). SHBG - 11. e2 sensitive - 37. I've added HCG 2x350iu/week that improved libido a lot, but energy is still low overall
rest (aside from HCT) is perfect. T cyp is compound from Empower. I switched to daily injections but that did not seem to make much difference.
at first I thought it is my e2, but experimenting with an AI did not really improve anything long term.
wondering if lets say running NPP(or ND) with T of 120mg/week+80MG NPP/week is worth a try.
I prefer NPP due to its shorter half life, if it doesn't work, I don't have to wait weeks or months for it to clear.
my hope would be to reduce some of the high T sides, while having the benefits of low dose deca, like joint improvement, gym recovery etc.
 
I think theoretically this could be a great plan for u. Only one way to find out if u react well to nandrolone or not. But using NPP is obv a great idea just incase u don’t like how u feel on it. I’ve been using nandrolone on and off for years now, mostly on. And currently been using it nonstop for a while. I seem to react just fine to it. But everybody’s different. I think 120 test and 80 NPP would be a great place to start for u tho. 80mg of NPP should be a a minimum effective dose to help with joints and gym performance/ recovery. Some guys can get away with even less, when it comes to joint pain improvement. I say try the protocol out and report back. NPP is cheap, since it’s UGL, so I see no downsides to at least trying it out. If u don’t like it u simply stop taking the NPP and it will be out of ur system in a week
 

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