Any advie?

[lawso1989]

Thanks for all that info there, I actually went gluten free years ago as soon as I started getting symptoms, it helped but after a few years I started eating a low gluten diet and felt pretty much the same. Will see what I get out of the endocrinologist and then take it from there but appreciate all the info. Thanks

 

[lawso1989]

So just another update on this situation as I know I've read through many forums and people don't really update it after a certain stage. I got to see an endo which turned out to be a complete waste of time. This specialist (who apparently was a professor at UBC) looked at me with a face of confusion and said she can't accept the blood results (thyroid specific) I got done in the UK, as the ranges are all different and the volume of measurements are also different. So she said I'll have to get more bloods test done and of lesser standards since its the free test through msp regulation done for her to understand . She also asked if I had any symptoms, which I had all wrote out for her, she looked at them and then said to me "even with your symptoms I can't do anything about that". Ive seen some bad Dr's on my time but this one took the absolute piss . And then people wonder why men don't go to the Dr's enough. And why we end up medicating ourselves. Any way after this I decided to get some enclomiphene from strate labs as an experiment it's almost 2 weeks at 6.25mg EOD and somethings working. I haven't needed to piss 6 times after drinking a sip of water, Ive slept for 8hours without waking for the first time in years, the constant pain in my lower back and shoulders has basically gone. The constant pumping of heartbeat in my head/cheat has calmed down and my libido has brought sex dreams and morning wood back to the scene which has been gone for aslong as the bad sleep. I still don't feel 100% but this symptom relief is a won battle for now. Ive read a lot about enclo and how after a month or so it's messes people up so far now was gonna maybe try 2 weeks on one week off til I finish the vial anyway. This is basically a trail to see if it did provide some kind of symptom relief which it has. Also its all fucked up because on paper my testosterone levels look great. Ahh the human body as magnificent as it is, man it's confusing!!

 

[lawso1989]

Just going to update this thread. Four months ago I deiced to jump on to trt with UGL stuff. Starting dose at 150mg split twice a week. Basically Life started getting better and I went off travelling south America. Ive been sleeping great body has recomposed to how it used to look, maybe even better. Strength went up but also went down. I went and got some basic bloods done at trough. total T, free T, and E2 just to keep an eye on things. My Total T is 1270, free T 30 pg/ml (reference 5.53-18.2). E2 59 pg/ml.

Judging by that at peak my Total would be 1500ish and E2 would be 70+ which is definitely not the numbers I would be aiming for or feeling for. I can definitely feel the high E2 symptoms, nothing major, but I can feel it muscle fatigue, mental fatigue and 80% erections (morning wood/2am wood is back sometimes now which is amazing to feel after all these years)

Does anyone know if dropping my dose by 10mg would be enough to drop the numbers? Or is that wishful thinking and it needs to drop more?Thank

Full disclosure I'll get a full blood panel done when I'm back from this travelling.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Does anyone know if dropping my dose by 10mg would be enough to drop the numbers? Or is that wishful thinking and it needs to drop more?Thank

Probably needs to drop more to make a significant difference in both numbers and symptoms. I would drop 20 mg to 130 mg.

 

[lawso1989]

Thanks for the reply

Probably needs to drop more to make a significant difference in both numbers and symptoms. I would drop 20 mg to 130 mg.

Thanks for the reply. Curious do people take an AI when they drop their dose to offset the E2 imbalance or is that just over complicating things?

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Thanks for the reply

Thanks for the reply. Curious do people take an AI when they drop their dose to offset the E2 imbalance or is that just over complicating things?

That is overcomplicating things - there is no need. Any change in the T/E2 ratio that occurs when you reduce dose will be minor and very temporary. You'll just throw everything more out of wack by introducing an AI.