Hi guys,
I take 100 mg split in to two injections (50 each) and 500 units of hcg split in 2 injections.
After 7 weeks, here are my results, 3.5 days after my last injection (I injected sunday evening, and tested Thursday morning):
Testosterone total = 571 ng per DL or 19.4 nmol/L
Free Test = 0.604nmol/L - a bit high, 3% of my total T which should be fine.
E2 = 25 pg/mL
My pre T levels were around 250 tested multiple times, always came up as 250-300s max.
Now I am asking, should I slightly increase dosage? I was going to increase to 60 mg twice per week starting this Monday and increase hcg to 300 units twice per week and stay there for a good while.
I would only increase the hcg once my wife and I start to try to have a kid.
All other markers are fine, nothing to take notice of.
Thanks guys
Now I am asking, should I slightly increase dosage? I was going to increase to 60 mg twice per week starting this Monday and increase hcg to 300 units twice per week and stay there for a good while.
We already went through this in one of your previous threads.
You are still not understanding how this works.
Why would you even consider increasing your dose 7 weeks in as again when starting TTh or tweaking a protocol (increasing/decreasing dose T, manipulating injection frequency) it will take 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize (TC/TE).
Hormones will be in FLUX during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized and it is COMMON for one to experience ups/downs during the transition as the body is trying to adjust.
Even then once blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) it will still take a few more months for the body to adapt to its new set-point and this is the critical time when one needs to gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms and overall well being.
Every protocol needs to be given a fighting chance (12 weeks) before claiming whether it was a success or failure let alone tweaking the protocol (dose of T/injection frequency).
Again no one should be increasing their dose 7 weeks in unless your true trough was too low, highly doubtful in most cases!
The testing method relied upon in Canada is the linear law-of-mass action cFTV.
Critical point here is looking over your most recent labs you are hitting a descent trough TT 571 ng/dL and your SHBG is most likely lowish seeing a you are hitting a higher-end trough FT 17.4 ng/dL.
Do you have room to increase your dose slightly and bring up your trough FT, sure but again would not even consider making such move 7 weeks in!
You need to stop getting caught up on this needing to hit a trough FT 20 -30 ng/dL.
Most healthy young males are hitting a cFTV 13-15 ng/dL and this is a short-lived peak!
A trough cFTV 30 ng/dL would be absurdly high.
Show me a healthy young natty male walking around with a high-end TT let alone 1000+ with FT through the roof that has low/lowish SHBG.
Such does not exist!
Again tread lightly on this so called needing to run a high/absurdly high trough FT level!
Always need to keep trough/injection frequency in mind!
Huge difference between one hitting a trough FT 20-30 ng/dL injecting once weekly vs EOD or daily!
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Hello all, Could anyone tell me what nornal testosterone levels are please? I see that there doesnt seem a great deal of agreement for testosterone levels from difference source. And yes, I do know that testosterone level do decrease with age. Thanks as always, great place.
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A standardized Equilibrium Dialysis assay would be considered the most accurate/reliable when it comes to testing free testosterone!
Just to be clear up any confusion this is Fiers camps data for mFT reference ranges not the harmonized reference range being worked on by the CDC. *Serum samples were analyzed from healthy men participating in the SIBLOS/SIBEX and EMAS studies, both population-based cohort studies * mFT...
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*We have determined mFT reference ranges in healthy men aged 25 to 69
Age category (years)
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Median mFT (ng/dl)
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95% mFT reference range (ng/dl)
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25-29 (n=148)
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10.3
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5.6 - 17.1
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30-39 (n=252)
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9.7
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4.9 - 18.1
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40-49 (n=207)
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8.0
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4.3 - 13.5
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50-59 (n=146)
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7.0
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3.8 - 12.6
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60-69 (n=114)
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5.9
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3.3 - 11.9
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Read over all my replies especially post # 68/69!
Hi guys, 33 year old male here, for the last 4 years I have tested my testosterone and it always comes back in the lower range (oscillating between 200s and 300s). At the end of last year, it tested even I the low 200s. I have depression and anxiety since a young age and a few years ago my...
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