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    Progesterone 280% higher, SHBG high, DHEA low, T normal -- should I start TRT?

    Hi. I would appreciate any analysis of my blood tests. Background: - 34yo male (5ft9 & 132lbs /180cm & 60kg) - never been a vegetarian. I eat mostly animal food, no sugar, no gluten. Severe chronic illness since 2013: - extreme tissue fatigue/weakness - super-easily injured - unable to heal...
  2. Pacman

    What is the reason that nandrolone causes depression? (Mechanism of action)

    Nandrolone is literally the only thing (so far) that helps me manage shoulder pain due to my cervical radiculopathy. But even at low doses (~60 mg a week), I seem to get very depressed on it, and feel "flatlined" about life in general. Good news is that even at 60 mg it helps immensely. I've...
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    Thinking about adding Deca for joint pain.

    I'm 58 years old and my joints continue to give me issues, on 80 mg a week of test cyp split x2, my dr gave me meloxicam and muscle relaxers for my joint pain, I have been thinking about adding a small dose of Deca instead of all of the nsaids, would like to hear from anyone who has used deca...
  4. Abonicex

    is there a nandrolone fact sheet somewhere? is it true it turns you off for 18 months after taking it?

    i've been reading very good experiences with nandrolone. but i would like more info on the implications of taking it and its functions and nature. i rad somewhere that it truns you off like test but for 18 months. is this true? where can i read more about it? is there a way to overcome that...
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    Nandrolone and Mood Poll

    Background: There is no shortage of threads and posts on nandrolone. Further, there are numerous opinions on the mental side effects of nandrolone. However, personal anecdotes vary widely with respect to how nandrolone affects mood. Like all hormones, nandrolone's affect one's physiology...
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    Question about free T and total T lab results while on test/nandrolone TRT

    Nandrolone should be picked up on the standard total testosterone assay, but what about free T? Will nandrolone interfere with the free T assay also? And if so, what lab tests are available that only detect testosterone and not nandrolone. Thanks
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    Lowering Test dose and adding Nandrolone

    First off I'd like to say thank you to the consistent contributers of this forum. I've learned a ton from many of your guys' conversations on here. I've been on trt for over a year and a half and have been dealing with chronic joint pain/inflammation for years. My doctor just added nandrolone...
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    Low dose nandrolone and water retention.

    Looking at starting a low dose nandrolone/test combo mainly for joint issues. The provider I spoke with today suggested 100mg test and 60mg nandrolone split into two injections per week starting out. I’m currently like 150mg test, but have some slight water retention even with keeping diet...
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    folks on nandrolone what are some typical protocols for TRT

    just signed up with Defy (been on TRT for about 5 years now)- looking forward to trying nandrolone as a base or split with testosterone. What are some of the protocols that work well with nandrolone - 50/50 split nandrolone/test, 75/25? 100% nandrolone? Would I still need to take anastrozole...
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    Oral Minoxidil

    Not sure the best forum here to post but here goes. i looked at all of the forum choices to post too. 60 years old. Been on TRT for five years. Life changing. I started to lose my hair and used topical minoxidil and been on Duasteride for two years now. Feel no side effects. Here’s the...
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    Deca (nandrolone) for joint pain

    Hi all, I've been on TRT for 1.5 years now and absolutely love it. Mood, energy levels, libido, are all improved. In the case of libido, my wife says it is TOO improved but that's another story. I'm 48 years old and have been doing BJJ for 6 years. BJJ is really hard on the joints (as is age)...
  12. Pacman

    Does nandrolone contribute to (or cause) depression?

    I added nandrolone officially to my regimen about one month ago (I have tried it in the past but never very long). The purpose of adding it was to assist in resolving joint pain, and it works PERFECT!! 10 out 10, joint pain is nearly non-existent! I am doing physical therapy in addition...
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    Nandrolone Issues

    More than 6 months ago, I was started on Nandrolone decanoate ON TOP of my regular TRT because Defy judged that my back pain would greatly benefit from beefing up/strengthening my back muscles. I was assigned to take 0.15 mL's twice a week. But even at such a small dose, the Nandrolone always...
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    Hooked on Oxandrolone?

    Hi All. I was prescribed 25 mg of Oxandrolone, once per day. Doc suggested I take it Mon-Fri, then off on Saturday/Sunday. I did this with my 120mg/week T injections. The results were great - better mood, better gym performance, better recovery, better looking, never tired, lot's of energy...
  15. Blackhawk

    Nandrolone for a cancer patient?

    I have had a very rough go with a blood cancer for the last 2 1/2 years. I've lost weight, and more importantly, muscle mass, as my body composition has shifted due to inactivity and in ability to exercise. I am down to 135 pounds, and my weight is still ever so slowly decreasing. There are...
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    Where to get nandrolone?

    Does anyone know of a compounding pharmacy, besides Empower, that sells nandrolone?
  17. Nelson Vergel


    Talking TRT Dose, Deca, Female TRT, Assault on Compounded Hormones & HCG with Nelson Vergel Part 1 Today we are talking with Nelson Vergel from Discounted Labs and Excel Male. In part 1 of this interview, we discuss Testosterone dosage, Deca or Nandrolone Decanoate, the stigma behind TRT, the...
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    Nandrolone - What to expect - Hb/HCT, HDL, Muscle?

    Hi, looking for some "theory" here based on your experience. I'm trying to understand the effects of replacing some T in my protocol with Nandrolone vs. adding Nandrolone on top of the existing Testosterone dose. Here goes.. 1. Nandrolone drives polycythemia more than Testosterone. a. If I am...
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    TRT + Nandrolone New Protocol

    I have been on TRT for the past 5 months and it has been life changing. In my last consult with my Dr, however, I brought up my history of debilitating joint and tendon pain that I've dealt with for years and we decided to add in Nandrolone decanoate to my protocol while reducing my Test cyp...
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    Nandrolone with Testosterone And Semen Issue

    I have been on a T program for several years. I left a local Men’s Clinic and started with Defy a year and a half ago. I am on daily doses of 20 mg and inject in the evenings. The protocol seems to work well for me with the exception of two issues. The main issue is joint pain in my knees, hips...
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    Lots of TRT docs and clinics, which one do you guys like best?

    Sorry if this question is already floating out there in another thread. I couldn't find it. Wondering who y'all use for TRT replacement and hormone optimization care. I know Defy is a big one used by many. Are there others I might consider? Who do YOU (yes, you reading this) use? Do you...
  22. Pacman

    Osteoarthritis and adding nandrolone to TRT

    I have osteoarthitis in my shoulder. I have tried PRP ($1500), physical therapy ($1200), I modified several upper body exercises to work the muscles without heavily inflaming the current state of my shoulder (I get creative), I focus a ton on joint health (CARs, etc), and have found very...
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    Nandrolone and HRT Article

    Yeah I know it is in a meathead magazine but it was put together by some educated meatheads and really gets at what we've been trying to figure out relative to nandrolone and HRT. It also contains that 4 letter word we don't use on this site either. The use of ARBs or ACEi is one worth noting...
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    Total testosterone MS and Nandrolone

    Is Total T MS panel specific enough to recognize a testosterone molecule from a nandrolone molecule? I know the standard non sensitive Total T panel can’t differentiate test and nandrolone and will add them together, and the Total T LC/MS/MS panel is specific enough to know the difference and...
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    Total T increased on nandrolone?

    Just wondering if anyone has added nandrolone to their protocol and seen their total T go up a considerable amount
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    Elevated heart beat. Nandrolone, T3, or both?

    I have been inejecting 0.06 ml's daily of nandrolone for 9 months. My doctor gave me the ok to begin injecting 0.08 ml's daily. I have been on the current nandro protocol for 3 weeks going on 4 weeks next Tuesday. At the same time, that the nandrolone dose was increased he also added an...
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    Questions about adding nandrolone to TRT protocol

    I'm 40 and I have been on TRT for 1 year mostly at 160mg per week cypionate (80mg e3d), HCG 25 units 1X per week and 2.5mg tadalafil daily. My TT is in the 900s trough on this dose and my FT is low 30s and E2 30. Everything seems perfect for me on this dose. My sexual function is better than...
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    I will begin Ibutamoren and Nandrolone

    I will be starting nandrolone and ibutamoren. Both were prescribed to help me build muscle because no matter how perfect my training, sleep, and macros are I just cannot build muscle to save my life. Just a quick background...I have been training for about 8 years maybe 9. The first 3 years my...
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    How to: Trestolone doses

    Low E2 here naturally. I’m not sure about low E2 long term. I don’t dig consuming soy and / or flax for my estrogen receptors. I’d much rather have estradiol attach as expected. enters Trestolone... it’s on paper 6x as androgenic as testosterone (and DHN), 2x as androgenic as DHT (and...
  31. Rock H. Johnson

    My 15 weeks experiment with Nandrolone.

    As with anything in life, one size does not fit all. So the following is anecdotal as in my subjective experience with Nandrolone Decanoate. When in last December chatter on the forum started to become louder on people adding Nandrolone to their protocol, I decided to go to my local friendly...
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