DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost

If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product. I do not have a source for the DHT powder to offer however, you are on your own on that one. There are products available with varying strength that are on page 3 of this post.

I share this because this is what TRT is supposed to feel like. It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense.

The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily.

I apologize for gushing, it's not my style. But when you find something that actually REALLY works you cant help but get a bit excited about it and want to share with your Bro's.


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Briefing Document: DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate for Libido Boost​

Source: Excerpts from "DHT Cream Plus Testosterone Propionate = Major Libido Boost - Excel Male TRT Forum" (August 27 - 30, 2024)

Key Themes & Most Important Ideas/Facts:

This forum thread details a self-experimentation protocol by a user named "BadassBlues" that combines topical Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) cream with subcutaneous Testosterone Propionate (Test Prop) injections to achieve a significant and rapid boost in libido, sexual intensity, and mood. While the results are enthusiastically reported, there's also discussion regarding the sustainability of such effects and the practical challenges of such a potent protocol.

1. The "Magic Bullet" Combination for Libido:

The core finding is that the combination of DHT cream and Testosterone Propionate produced an exceptionally strong libido increase. BadassBlues describes it as "what TRT is supposed to feel like" and calls it "the magic bullet."

• "If anyone has been following the other threads regarding DHT cream and Test Prop, you will know the discussion of libido has been mentioned. I recently ordered some test prop and have been using it the past few days. I have also dialed in my DHT cream home brew to a very nice end product... with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz. For all those looking for the solution to a lack of libido, this may just be the magic bullet. Orgasms are extremely intense."

2. Rapid Onset and Intense Effects:

The effects of the combination were felt quickly, within a "few days" for the Test Prop to start working, combined with the DHT cream. The intensity of the libido boost is a recurring point, leading to "major distraction."

• "It took a few days for the test prop to begin working and with the combination of the DHT cream... Jesus. Honestly, I can't do this every day as I can't concentrate on anything but sex. It's a constant urge that manifests itself in the prostate and radiates outward to a highly potent sexual buzz."
• "I'm, not exaggerating when I say it's a major distraction to be teenager horny when trying to work."
• Regarding Test Prop peak: "my best guess as to that after using it is 5 hours. By 1 or 2 O'clock, I am majorly distracted..."

3. Beyond Libido: Mood Enhancement and "Male Mojo":

In addition to sexual effects, the protocol also resulted in significant mood improvement, described as a "calm, confident male mojo."

• "The best benefit by far though, is the mood enhancement. That calm, confident male mojo just flows easily."

4. Dosing and Application Details (BadassBlues's Protocol):

• Testosterone Propionate: 20 mg Sub Q (subcutaneous) in the AM.
• DHT Cream: A "dime sized drop" applied to the "taint" (perineum) area, using PhloJel as a base for quick drying. A small amount is also applied to the "big guy" (penis), specifically the frenulum, for increased sensitivity.
• Frequency: Not intended for daily routine use due to the intensity. It will be used "on demand" or for "weekends and other special occasions." BadassBlues plans to stay on Cypionate as his main TRT protocol.

5. "Honeymoon Period" and Sustainability Concerns:

Other forum members, notably "Cataceous," raise the possibility that the initial intense results might be a "honeymoon period" that is not sustained long-term, similar to experiences with propionate or bremelanotide.

• Cataceous: "This sounds a lot like the honeymoon period I had with propionate. It lasted a week or two. I had a similar experience with bremelanotide, though shorter. It will be interesting to see if your results are sustained for a longer period."
• BadassBlues acknowledges this: "As you said though, maybe that's a short-lived thing as this is my first time using it. I'll post updates."

6. Application Site Justification and Practicalities:

The choice of the "taint" (perineum, the area between the anus and genitals) for DHT cream application is noted for its effectiveness in boosting libido and for practical reasons related to transferability during sexual activity.

• BadassBlues: "I do put a little on the big guy, but for the libido bump, the taint works best."
• FunkOdyssey: "There are some practical advantages to that application site: you won't be able to safely make use of your obscene libido if your junk is covered with transferable DHT cream."
• BadassBlues clarifies: "The cream penetrates the skin and is absorbed. Once absorbed, it works within the area you placed it. I have found a rejuvenation effect from using Andractim years ago. You would definitely wash it off prior to sex."

7. "Home Brew" and Sourcing Challenges:

BadassBlues created a "home brew" DHT cream and does not offer a source for the DHT powder, noting that others are "on your own on that one." However, he mentions that "products available with varying strength are on page 3 of this post." This highlights the unregulated and self-sourced nature of some of the components of this experimental protocol.

 

It's a thin oil so you will need to spread around to avoid it going to waste. I rub in as best possible. It says it's a cream, but it is not. I do the entire shaft and just wait for the tissues to get the boost. You can literally feel it. Like its buzzing? Very pleasant and you get a good chubby to walk around with.

That "buzzing" and the "chubby" sounds like a topical vasodilator, not a topical DHT.

 

Wow, interesting. I suspect the Diktator cream is also bunk as I stated before. I can vouch for Alphagels though - there's definitely DHT in there.

You can test if Alphagels spikes your DHT after applying it on balls.

 

You can test if Alphagels spikes your DHT after applying it on balls.

I tested 317 ng/dL DHT after a couple applications of 1 ml on shoulders, the night and morning before test. Tested 5 hours after morning application.

 

What is your typical DHT level before Alphagels?

 

What is your typical DHT level before Alphagels?

65 ng/dL when I was on 140 mg test enanthate weekly. Have not tested recently on 175 mg test prop weekly. I would guess something like 80-100 ng/dL.

 

That "buzzing" and the "chubby" sounds like a topical vasodilator, not a topical DHT.

well that's not a good sign! Someone PM me a sure thing legit source?

 

I tested 317 ng/dL DHT after a couple applications of 1 ml on shoulders, the night and morning before test. Tested 5 hours after morning application.

Tested DHT 5 hours after you injected testosterone? Testosterone itself will spike it, so how do make difference between a DHT spike from testosterone or from the topical DHT?

 

Tested DHT 5 hours after you injected testosterone? Testosterone itself will spike it, so how do make difference between a DHT spike from testosterone or from the topical DHT?

Injectable testosterone does not produce DHT numbers that high, regardless of your dosage, and regardless of the timing of measurement.

 

Tested DHT 5 hours after you injected testosterone? Testosterone itself will spike it, so how do make difference between a DHT spike from testosterone or from the topical DHT?

25mg/day of Test P isn't spiking DHT at 300+ng/dL

 

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"The carrier has been updated in our most recent formula and is much more skin friendly. DMSO, EVOO & Vitamin E oil."

 

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"The carrier has been updated in our most recent formula and is much more skin friendly. DMSO, EVOO & Vitamin E oil."

"We feel this is a notable improvement over our previous carrier of motor oil and and hydrochloric acid"

 

"We feel this is a notable improvement over our previous carrier of motor oil and and hydrochloric acid"

Lol, was it that bad?

 

I tested 317 ng/dL DHT after a couple applications of 1 ml on shoulders, the night and morning before test. Tested 5 hours after morning application.

Ran DHT again, same doses of Alphagels 20% DHT and similar timing, this time with scrotal application: 408 ng/dL

 

Ran DHT again, same doses of Alphagels 20% DHT and similar timing, this time with scrotal application: 408 ng/dL

How was the feeling on applying the "cream" to the scrotum? You mentioned that it's not exactly pleasant for the skin, I'd imagine it's even worse on the scrotum.

 

How was the feeling on applying the "cream" to the scrotum? You mentioned that it's not exactly pleasant for the skin, I'd imagine it's even worse on the scrotum.

It's not that bad after you get used to it. Yes, it makes the area red shortly after application and feels a little "burny", but it doesn't stay like that for very long. I don't know if you've ever taken high dose niacin and experienced a niacin flush, but it looks and feels similar to that.

 

It's not that bad after you get used to it. Yes, it makes the area red shortly after application and feels a little "burny", but it doesn't stay like that for very long. I don't know if you've ever taken high dose niacin and experienced a niacin flush, but it looks and feels similar to that.

The red burn is probably from DMSO vehicle.

Does the topical DHT improve any of the sexual components for you long term: libido (sexual thoughts long before sex), sexual excitability upon sex, erection, pleasant "electric" penis sensitivity during sex, ease to achieve orgasm, pleasure of orgasm?

 

The red burn is probably from DMSO vehicle.

Does the topical DHT improve any of the sexual components for you long term: libido (sexual thoughts long before sex), sexual excitability upon sex, erection, pleasant "electric" penis sensitivity during sex, ease to achieve orgasm, pleasure of orgasm?

Haven't taken it long term - I basically used it just long enough to get some labs and make sure it was legit. I'm experimenting with something else currently.

 

Today I have received the 20% DHT from AlphaGels. It took exactly 1 month from making the order and payment to receive it, using the standard shipping they offer. The ordering process isn't difficult, but it can take a few days for them to answer you and then some additional time for them to actually ship it out. It's not a streamlined system, but it's fine.

In any case, what @FunkOdyssey said about their product is true. It's not a cream or gel, but rather oil that you apply to your skin, I guess you could call it an ointment. The application process isn't the easiest as the oil can easily drip down, so you have to apply it with the dropper and then spread it over the skin. I tried the standard dose of 1ml and was able to cover both of my delts and part of my chest. 2 minutes after applying I felt a stinging pain, a couple of minutes later it started to itch, like I was bitten by mosquitoes all over the place and soon after the skin became red as well. It definitely isn't a skin friendly product, but I'll see how it goes after multiple applications. 20 minutes in, the intensity of negative effects was massively reduced, 40 minutes in it all disappeared, except skin redness, which took a couple of hours to clear.
Considering that the ingredients are supposedly olive oil, DMSO and Vit E oil, I'd say these negative effects likely come from DMSO. During my research into DMSO for my future home-brews, I noticed that such reactions can be possible especially if the amount of DMSO in whatever "ointment" you're using goes above 10%.

It's been now almost 7 hours since the first application and I don't feel anything. I've heard the effects should come quite fast, in a matter of hours. Regardless of it not being skin friendly I was thinking of applying it to the scrotum; 0.5ml at 8am and 0.5ml at 6pm, for a total of 200mg of DHT per day. Next week I would then take a test at trough and then the next day at peak, to see if it actually works and what numbers I'll have.

Any thoughts on all this? For all those who experienced positive effects, did you get them in a matter of hours, or did it take a few days to kick in?

 

Any thoughts on all this? For all those who experienced positive effects, did you get them in a matter of hours, or did it take a few days to kick in?

I experienced close-to-immediate improvement of erectile function.

On the other hand, if the libido effects of TRT typically take at least a few weeks to kick in, I don't see why the timeline with pure DHT would be any different. If something positive happens immediately, that's great, but I wouldn't necessarily be expecting it.

 

I have applied the ointment on my scrotum about an hour ago. It's far easier to apply and it's interesting that I don't have any negative effects by applying here, no stinging, itching or redness. I'll keep applying here.

I experienced close-to-immediate improvement of erectile function.

On the other hand, if the libido effects of TRT typically take at least a few weeks to kick in, I don't see why the timeline with pure DHT would be any different. If something positive happens immediately, that's great, but I wouldn't necessarily be expecting it.

All I've watched and read in the last months about Test/DHT creams, always mentioned positive sexual effects hours into using it, that's why I'm a bit worried right now. The reason why it takes weeks with TRT in most cases is because they use longer esters, which takes time to saturate, meanwhile creams use Test without esters so the half life is what 2-4 hours? Meaning that the effects should come faster, similar how I feel the effects of Test P within 3 days, while Test E takes 3 weeks.