Forum Etiquette

[Jon H]

I've been a member of this forum for several years. I rarely post, but do visit from time to time. People used to be able to disagree with each other respectfully, even when opposing views were on opposite ends of the spectrum. Over the last few months I've noticed a trend of folks bashing anyone that disagreed with them on certain topics. I just read a thread today where people were disagreeing, but posts were full of name calling and accusations of being shills for doctors.

Using phrases and words like "How much did that good doctor pay you to post that?" Rookie, Chump, PieHole, piss-poor, f***king, F***KING FRAUD, shit, delusional....all this in a single thread. Some of this was even from a "Super Moderator". When did this forum stoop to the level of generic steroid forums? I hope it stops. I know I can just stop coming to ExcelMale, and no one will miss me in the least, but this forum used to be a great resource for men that were just starting TRT. I can only hope it gets better.

 

[Vince]

Jon H, thanks for reminding us about the code of conduct, if you have any issues please notify us.​

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[RickB]

I think it's funny when madman rants. It's tough love.

Plus, I've never seen him or any other mod threaten to suspend or ban anyone that they bash, and I think that's great. Free speech all around.

 

[Bbobtucker]

May be I just don't lurk enough but I haven't noticed any abuses. Still I think the rules should apply to everyone. We open up and talk about some really sensitive stuff round here. I'd be even further demolished if someone bashed me for opening up about my deepest darkest fears or problems.

You want free speech go stand on a corner in public and protest for free speech but follow the rules in this private forum.

 

[RickB]

May be I just don't lurk enough but I haven't noticed any abuses. Still I think the rules should apply to everyone. We open up and talk about some really sensitive stuff round here. I'd be even further demolished if someone bashed me for opening up about my deepest darkest fears or problems.

You want free speech go stand on a corner in public and protest for free speech but follow the rules in this private forum.

No gets roasted for honest questions, nor for fears and problems. Maybe you should read around some more before chiming in about something like this, new member.

But of course, that's just a suggestion, as you have the right to speak freely.

 

[Bbobtucker]

What are you talking about?

No gets roasted for honest questions, nor for fears and problems.

As I stated, I have not seen it either, we are in agreement. But just because you or I haven't witnessed it first hand means everyone follows the rules then? OP literally stated that he's seen exactly what you are saying doesn't happen. Vince posted a great reminder and remedy if such nonsense is witnessed.

Maybe you should read around some more before chiming in about something like this, new member.

Odd, it would appear that I joined about 6 years prior to you. Inferring that new members somehow aren't qualified to respond or that I know not what I am talking about because my avatar says New Member is a pretty weak way of calling me a rooky.

But of course, that's just a suggestion, as you have the right to speak freely.

Did you read Vince's post at all? I think in your effort to speak quickly, you completely missed the point. You absolutely do not have the right to free speech in a private forum with rules specifically outlining allowable speech. I think Abraham Lincoln probably summed it up best when he said "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

 

[tareload]

Jon H, thanks for reminding us about the code of conduct, if you have any issues please notify us.​

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By subscribing to ExcelMale, you will abide by the following:

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2. You will not attack others--even if you strongly disagree with their views. This applies to emails posted to the group or to the person directly.

3. You will always respect the confidentiality of others.

4. You will post messages only on issues that are pertinent to the site

5. You will respect people's gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, health status, political affiliations, etc.

6. You will not post for profit information, unless pre-approved by moderator.

7. You will not discuss illegal therapies not approved for human use, unless the information comes from a published study.

8. Your messages may or may not get approved by the moderator. You will accept the moderator's best judgment and will not argue about it with him about this action.

9. You will talk to your doctor before implementing anything you read on this site. ExcelMale and its members are not responsible for any decisions you make regarding your health care

10. There is NO posting of another member's information without prior approval of the member in question.

11. There is NO posting of pornographic pictures or messages. This includes pictures in your AVATAR as well as link to pornographic websites.

12. Do not post links from other men's forums. Everyone has the right to visit other forums as they wish, but advertising those sites here is not acceptable unless prior authorization is given by any of the moderators.

13. You are allowed to give your opinions and share experiences, but never recommend any treatment options. This site is for educational purposes only and no medical advice is provided.

14. ExcelMale.com staff are not employees of any clinics and do not serve as customer service representatives for any clinics. If you have issues with your current health care provider, you should address them with them and not expect people on this site to do so for you.

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Darn my bad. I have broken a couple of these

 

[Vince]

Yes, I have banned members for misconduct. We must be respectful of everyone.

 

[tareload]

I think it's funny when madman rants. It's tough love

Hey at least this isn't TNation:

I am grateful and come here to relax and learn.

 

[Thomas Stewart]

I've been a member of this forum for several years. I rarely post, but do visit from time to time. People used to be able to disagree with each other respectfully, even when opposing views were on opposite ends of the spectrum. Over the last few months I've noticed a trend of folks bashing anyone that disagreed with them on certain topics. I just read a thread today where people were disagreeing, but posts were full of name calling and accusations of being shills for doctors.

Using phrases and words like "How much did that good doctor pay you to post that?" Rookie, Chump, PieHole, piss-poor, f***king, F***KING FRAUD, shit, delusional....all this in a single thread. Some of this was even from a "Super Moderator". When did this forum stoop to the level of generic steroid forums? I hope it stops. I know I can just stop coming to ExcelMale, and no one will miss me in the least, but this forum used to be a great resource for men that were just starting TRT. I can only hope it gets better.

Hi, Jon. I so understand you! It makes me very sad when I see such hateful comments from people. Do people really have no trust and simple respect? I really hope that this is not the case and I believe in universal adequacy.

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

I think it's funny when madman rants. It's tough love.

Plus, I've never seen him or any other mod threaten to suspend or ban anyone that they bash, and I think that's great. Free speech all around.

I don't think it's funny. It's poor leadership, doesn't add value, and violates the principle stated by one of the great philosophers as "never forget that you just might wind up being wrong."

 

[Nelson Vergel]

All moderators are volunteers. Please help us keep this forum civil. Just report bad behavior directly to me by clicking on my profile and sending me a private message. No need to go into a lengthy drama about it. I easily ban people. If a moderator had a bad bitchy day, I will address them and take care of it.
Thanks to all of you who care enough about keeping this community welcoming and friendly.

 

[RickB]

What are you talking about?

As I stated, I have not seen it either, we are in agreement. But just because you or I haven't witnessed it first hand means everyone follows the rules then? OP literally stated that he's seen exactly what you are saying doesn't happen. Vince posted a great reminder and remedy if such nonsense is witnessed.



Odd, it would appear that I joined about 6 years prior to you. Inferring that new members somehow aren't qualified to respond or that I know not what I am talking about because my avatar says New Member is a pretty weak way of calling me a rooky.


Did you read Vince's post at all? I think in your effort to speak quickly, you completely missed the point. You absolutely do not have the right to free speech in a private forum with rules specifically outlining allowable speech. I think Abraham Lincoln probably summed it up best when he said "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

The only furor I see from madman (and one of the other mods) is directed towards a member or two who continuously challenge studies/research with anectdotal "evidence". At first I was put off by his replies. I changed my mind, when I realized that as much displeasure as those members' posts bring madman, he never deletes them nor threatens any mod action. That is what I was talking about with free speech. The mods allow differing points of view. As far as his replies in general, madman uses colorful language but I've never seen him insult anyone.

New members have just as much right to post as anyone else. That's why I said you have the right.

That quote is incorrectly attributed to Lincoln.

I addressed your points, rather than just make a blanket statement, so hopefully this post won't be shadow deleted like my prior two. If it is, then this forum is the opposite of what I've been saying it is.