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  1. Pacman

    Does nandrolone contribute to (or cause) depression?

    I added nandrolone officially to my regimen about one month ago (I have tried it in the past but never very long). The purpose of adding it was to assist in resolving joint pain, and it works PERFECT!! 10 out 10, joint pain is nearly non-existent! I am doing physical therapy in addition...
  2. D

    Nandrolone Issues

    More than 6 months ago, I was started on Nandrolone decanoate ON TOP of my regular TRT because Defy judged that my back pain would greatly benefit from beefing up/strengthening my back muscles. I was assigned to take 0.15 mL's twice a week. But even at such a small dose, the Nandrolone always...
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    Hooked on Oxandrolone?

    Hi All. I was prescribed 25 mg of Oxandrolone, once per day. Doc suggested I take it Mon-Fri, then off on Saturday/Sunday. I did this with my 120mg/week T injections. The results were great - better mood, better gym performance, better recovery, better looking, never tired, lot's of energy...
  4. Blackhawk

    Nandrolone for a cancer patient?

    I have had a very rough go with a blood cancer for the last 2 1/2 years. I've lost weight, and more importantly, muscle mass, as my body composition has shifted due to inactivity and in ability to exercise. I am down to 135 pounds, and my weight is still ever so slowly decreasing. There are...
  5. S

    Where to get nandrolone?

    Does anyone know of a compounding pharmacy, besides Empower, that sells nandrolone?
  6. Nelson Vergel


    Talking TRT Dose, Deca, Female TRT, Assault on Compounded Hormones & HCG with Nelson Vergel Part 1 Today we are talking with Nelson Vergel from Discounted Labs and Excel Male. In part 1 of this interview, we discuss Testosterone dosage, Deca or Nandrolone Decanoate, the stigma behind TRT, the...
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    Nandrolone - What to expect - Hb/HCT, HDL, Muscle?

    Hi, looking for some "theory" here based on your experience. I'm trying to understand the effects of replacing some T in my protocol with Nandrolone vs. adding Nandrolone on top of the existing Testosterone dose. Here goes.. 1. Nandrolone drives polycythemia more than Testosterone. a. If I am...
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    TRT + Nandrolone New Protocol

    I have been on TRT for the past 5 months and it has been life changing. In my last consult with my Dr, however, I brought up my history of debilitating joint and tendon pain that I've dealt with for years and we decided to add in Nandrolone decanoate to my protocol while reducing my Test cyp...
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    Nandrolone with Testosterone And Semen Issue

    I have been on a T program for several years. I left a local Men’s Clinic and started with Defy a year and a half ago. I am on daily doses of 20 mg and inject in the evenings. The protocol seems to work well for me with the exception of two issues. The main issue is joint pain in my knees, hips...
  10. J

    Lots of TRT docs and clinics, which one do you guys like best?

    Sorry if this question is already floating out there in another thread. I couldn't find it. Wondering who y'all use for TRT replacement and hormone optimization care. I know Defy is a big one used by many. Are there others I might consider? Who do YOU (yes, you reading this) use? Do you...
  11. Pacman

    Osteoarthritis and adding nandrolone to TRT

    I have osteoarthitis in my shoulder. I have tried PRP ($1500), physical therapy ($1200), I modified several upper body exercises to work the muscles without heavily inflaming the current state of my shoulder (I get creative), I focus a ton on joint health (CARs, etc), and have found very...
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    Nandrolone and HRT Article

    Yeah I know it is in a meathead magazine but it was put together by some educated meatheads and really gets at what we've been trying to figure out relative to nandrolone and HRT. It also contains that 4 letter word we don't use on this site either. The use of ARBs or ACEi is one worth noting...
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    Total testosterone MS and Nandrolone

    Is Total T MS panel specific enough to recognize a testosterone molecule from a nandrolone molecule? I know the standard non sensitive Total T panel can’t differentiate test and nandrolone and will add them together, and the Total T LC/MS/MS panel is specific enough to know the difference and...
  14. G

    Total T increased on nandrolone?

    Just wondering if anyone has added nandrolone to their protocol and seen their total T go up a considerable amount
  15. B

    Elevated heart beat. Nandrolone, T3, or both?

    I have been inejecting 0.06 ml's daily of nandrolone for 9 months. My doctor gave me the ok to begin injecting 0.08 ml's daily. I have been on the current nandro protocol for 3 weeks going on 4 weeks next Tuesday. At the same time, that the nandrolone dose was increased he also added an...
  16. S

    Questions about adding nandrolone to TRT protocol

    I'm 40 and I have been on TRT for 1 year mostly at 160mg per week cypionate (80mg e3d), HCG 25 units 1X per week and 2.5mg tadalafil daily. My TT is in the 900s trough on this dose and my FT is low 30s and E2 30. Everything seems perfect for me on this dose. My sexual function is better than...
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    I will begin Ibutamoren and Nandrolone

    I will be starting nandrolone and ibutamoren. Both were prescribed to help me build muscle because no matter how perfect my training, sleep, and macros are I just cannot build muscle to save my life. Just a quick background...I have been training for about 8 years maybe 9. The first 3 years my...
  18. Nelson Vergel

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    How to: Trestolone doses

    Low E2 here naturally. I’m not sure about low E2 long term. I don’t dig consuming soy and / or flax for my estrogen receptors. I’d much rather have estradiol attach as expected. enters Trestolone... it’s on paper 6x as androgenic as testosterone (and DHN), 2x as androgenic as DHT (and...
  20. Rock H. Johnson

    My 15 weeks experiment with Nandrolone.

    As with anything in life, one size does not fit all. So the following is anecdotal as in my subjective experience with Nandrolone Decanoate. When in last December chatter on the forum started to become louder on people adding Nandrolone to their protocol, I decided to go to my local friendly...
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    Nandrolone added to TRT protocol in micro dose.

    I posted a while back about my intentions of adding Nandrolone to my TRT protocol. And whilst i havent yet had blood work taken on this new protocol. (I will wait 4 more weeks). I thought id share this for any gents to comment. I added nandrolone decanoate 2 weeks ago. I dropped my testosterone...
  22. J

    ADVICE NEEDED! What is this telling me?

    Hi gang. I don't even know where to post this or where to I'll just go for it. On TRT since 2012. That includes hCG and anastrozole. My injections have been a Cypionate/Enthanate/Nandrolone blend 1mL IM per week, spaced out in 3 shots. 50u of hCH twice a week. 0.25mg anastrozole...
  23. D

    Nandrolone (Deca Durabolin): Effect on Lab Tests

    PARTICIPATION NEEDED! Of those EM members that have taken nandrolone or are currently taking nandrolone alongside their TRT, we are conducting a small ExcelMale study to help determine the effect that nandrolone has on Total Testosterone, E2, Prolactin, SHBG, free T, and DHT while taking TRT...
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    Adding some nandrolone to TRT?

    Hi all- I’m a Defy patient that had stopped TRT for a few months due to international travel and is restarting. I was pretty dialed in but had one side effect that I just couldn’t manage before. Acne mostly on my legs that was bad enough to cause some scaring. Penile sensitivity could was a...
  25. S

    Nandrolone Dosage - How much T?

    I’m not as familiar with the science as some on this site, so forgive me if I don’t know the correct terms for what Im trying to describe. Ive heard/read something along the lines of “nandrolone has a greater binding affinity...this in turn leaves more T unbound and results in higher FT...this...
  26. B

    Nandrolone added to TRT to reduce DHT?

    I would appreciate any professional opinion on adding nandrolone to TRT to help attenuate high DHT symptoms, specifically acne. For example; If the current protocol was 100mg of a testosterone ester per week. With the protocol being ideal, but for the acne due to DHT conversion. Would...
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    Sleep Apnea: Why Does Testosterone Make it Worse?

    As part of an unsuccessful recent experiment with my protocol (nandrolone added to testosterone), my sleep apnea appears to have gotten noticeably worse over a very short period of time. I haven't been treating my OSA since it's typically so mild if I sleep on my side. I'm wondering if anyone...
  28. D

    Nandrolone Experiences

    Hey everyone. I wanted to get input on what people's experiences with nandrolone have been, whether prescribed in low doses for joint pain, cachexia or just simply wanting to put on size. I have been prescribed nandrolone for the past year for joint pain through the Baylor College of Medicine...
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    New Protocol, Elevated RHR/Poor Sleep/Eye Floaters. Abort or Stay the Course?

    Basic Info I'm 6 days into a major protocol change overseen by Defy Medical and feeling really strange and unsettling side effects. There are some confounding factors that are making it hard for me to know what to do. Defy is closed for a few days for the holiday so I can't get a consult and...
  30. S

    Nandrolone/Test Blend - Would you if you are prone to anger?

    Recently had two consults with Defy, first because I was getting really angry and anxious on TRT (200mg, lowered it back to 150mg), and another to talk about T prop and how I was doing with the lowered dose. They suggested that my E2 may have been out of whack too, and that if we find that's...
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    Low Dose Nandrolone

    Hi, all. I had an appointment with my provider today, and he recommended low dose nandrolone with my current trt protocol. I'm currently on daily propionate injections, and they work really well. My problem is that I have a lot of joint problems, and he is hoping that deca will offer some...
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