WhatSayYou89
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I’m going to start experimenting with this to see if it may work. Being on both of these separately I had slight glimpses here and there of feeling good, never nothing worth staying with that specific protocol.
Now I’m considering trying to use injections to help offset some of the downsides of cream and vice versa.
The main downside of cream only, being that I have to wake up with low test and force myself awake to get the cream on or zero energy. or I would have to be doing cream at night, morning etc.. which I don’t want this to consume my life scheduling wise.
The benefits I’m trying replicate is the mood and libido boost I get with cream. Also, potentially the effect of DHT combating the high e2 side effects. (I’m still researching this last part, idk to much about how that works)
So I was going to try to keep my levels at something midway with test injection. Maybe like 500-600 range. This way I have some test upon waking up. Then I could somewhat replicate the body’s natural cycle of higher test in the morning with applying 1 click of test cream each morning.
If anyone’s interested in this then I might keep a log of it on here.
So today was my first day with adding the cream back into the protocol.
Applied the 1 click to scrotum and felt that mood/energy boost. Then I crashed about 4 hours after applying it.
This crash was one of the main reasons I got off cream is because it’s not a crash where you go from feeling great to to regular self. It’s a fucking wall, like going from 100 to zero in the span of 5 minutes.
I use to think that the crash might of been because my body was using the testosterone then I was depleted around the time the crash happened. Today threw that theory out. I’m still on my regular injection protocol and experienced it.
So it’s most likely e2 related.
The tricky part now is I still experienced that crash even when I was on 1 click to the scrotum.
Now to decide if I should lower my inj dosage some, then try to get blood work in a few weeks or go ahead and get it done to help eliminate the guessing.
Thinking with my wallet here so that’s why there is more theory crafting going on than getting bloodwork every time I change something up on my protocol.
So I applied 1 click this night before bed.
Woke up with high e2 without a doubt which I expected since I had done 2 clicks the day before. Started feeling pretty good about 10AM and so far so good. Best mood I’ve had in awhile.
This is the same feeling I had when I was on the cream alone doing 1 click before bed. This wasn’t working bc I would crash about 2pm bc I’m thinking low T.
Hoping that’s not the case here since I’m injections as well. We’ll find out in a few hours as I’m writing this at work while at lunch.
Mood/energy started to come down around 3-4pm.
Starting to think if I wouldn’t be better off with 100mg cream versus the 200mg I currently have. This way maybe me applying it I wouldn’t have the roller coaster.
Going to draw labs next week.
I’m only doing daily updates right now because there’s a lot to report. Eventually I’ll consolidate these updates into weekly updates or just when I change something up.
Now I’m considering trying to use injections to help offset some of the downsides of cream and vice versa.
The main downside of cream only, being that I have to wake up with low test and force myself awake to get the cream on or zero energy. or I would have to be doing cream at night, morning etc.. which I don’t want this to consume my life scheduling wise.
The benefits I’m trying replicate is the mood and libido boost I get with cream. Also, potentially the effect of DHT combating the high e2 side effects. (I’m still researching this last part, idk to much about how that works)
So I was going to try to keep my levels at something midway with test injection. Maybe like 500-600 range. This way I have some test upon waking up. Then I could somewhat replicate the body’s natural cycle of higher test in the morning with applying 1 click of test cream each morning.
If anyone’s interested in this then I might keep a log of it on here.
Day 1
So today was my first day with adding the cream back into the protocol.
Applied the 1 click to scrotum and felt that mood/energy boost. Then I crashed about 4 hours after applying it.
This crash was one of the main reasons I got off cream is because it’s not a crash where you go from feeling great to to regular self. It’s a fucking wall, like going from 100 to zero in the span of 5 minutes.
I use to think that the crash might of been because my body was using the testosterone then I was depleted around the time the crash happened. Today threw that theory out. I’m still on my regular injection protocol and experienced it.
So it’s most likely e2 related.
The tricky part now is I still experienced that crash even when I was on 1 click to the scrotum.
Now to decide if I should lower my inj dosage some, then try to get blood work in a few weeks or go ahead and get it done to help eliminate the guessing.
Thinking with my wallet here so that’s why there is more theory crafting going on than getting bloodwork every time I change something up on my protocol.
Day 2
2nd day applied the cream this morning and didn’t have that same boost. Felt an all to familiar crappy feeling that reminded me of when I started the cream. This made me look back through my notes that I kept when I was on the cream. I had swapped to applying the cream before bed, sleeping through the crappy feeling and felt much better during the day then I would crash about 2pm.So I applied 1 click this night before bed.
Day 3
Woke up with high e2 without a doubt which I expected since I had done 2 clicks the day before. Started feeling pretty good about 10AM and so far so good. Best mood I’ve had in awhile.
This is the same feeling I had when I was on the cream alone doing 1 click before bed. This wasn’t working bc I would crash about 2pm bc I’m thinking low T.
Hoping that’s not the case here since I’m injections as well. We’ll find out in a few hours as I’m writing this at work while at lunch.
Mood/energy started to come down around 3-4pm.
Starting to think if I wouldn’t be better off with 100mg cream versus the 200mg I currently have. This way maybe me applying it I wouldn’t have the roller coaster.
Going to draw labs next week.
I’m only doing daily updates right now because there’s a lot to report. Eventually I’ll consolidate these updates into weekly updates or just when I change something up.
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