Switched Dr's and now feeling AMAZING.....yet confused

[You Gonna Learn Today]

Now I'm confused. HCG is dosed in IUs (International Units). Are you now saying that your weekly dosage of HCG is 1500 IUs? 75 units of 1500 IUs doesn't make sense to me.

Thanks again, Jackie for your responses. I've confirmed the following, my dose is in fact 1,500 IU's per week. I was told to inject 75 units per week. Basically, I have a 11,000 IU HCG bottle and reconstituted it with 5.5mls of bac water, that would come out to 2,000 IU per ml. At 75 units of that, that's what gives me the 1,500 IU dose per week.

If your weekly dosage of HCG is in fact 1500 IUs, then at a minimum, you should split that into 2 injections of 750 IUs. Personally, I pin HCG EOD (Every Other Day). If you want to pin EOD, then your dose would be approximately 430 IUs EOD. I think this is the better option, but you'll have to decide for yourself.

For myself, .5mL or 500 IUs is the limit for my abdomen in any single injection. Any more than that, and it leaves a very noticeable lump. Again, keep in mind that everyone is different.

I've been doing the full 75 units in my stomach fat without any issue (that extra lump just blends in with the others on my stomach ), but I'm going to split that in half and will now do it twice a week with my TCyp and see how I feel after about 3 weeks or so. After that, I'll probably adjust some more until I find the perfect frequency and amount for me. Chasing that sweet spot I felt at the beginning!

Test is oil based, and very thick. A lot of guys (like me) don't and won't pin Test into their abdomen. I don't want any lumps, bumps, or red irritation at the injection site. I personally pin Test in my quads, and my quads only. I use a 1/2"/29ga insulin pin, and never have any lumps/bumps or irritation. Your mileage may vary.

You're going to have to experiment with injection sites/locations, and find the one (or ones) that work best for you.

I've been pinning in my quad myself, but I've been using 1"/25g. I just ordered some 1/2"/27g pins and 1/2"/28g insulin pins, as well. Once those come in I'll figure out which one is best for me and either keep pinning my quad or probably switch to my delt. I don't have much fat on my quad or delt, so I'm hoping the 1/2" will work ok.

Again, thanks for your responses Jackie and everyone else for their patience with being a noob.

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

Thanks again, Jackie for your responses. I've confirmed the following, my dose is in fact 1,500 IU's per week. I was told to inject 75 units per week. Basically, I have a 11,000 IU HCG bottle and reconstituted it with 5.5mls of bac water, that would come out to 2,000 IU per ml. At 75 units of that, that's what gives me the 1,500 IU dose per week.

Ok, this makes sense now.

I've been doing the full 75 units in my stomach fat without any issue (that extra lump just blends in with the others on my stomach ), but I'm going to split that in half and will now do it twice a week with my TCyp and see how I feel after about 3 weeks or so. After that, I'll probably adjust some more until I find the perfect frequency and amount for me. Chasing that sweet spot I felt at the beginning!

YGLT, do us all a favor here, ok? When you're talking HCG dosage, just say you're pinning 750 IUs twice a week, or 1500 IUs per week. It's much easier to understand that way.

I've been pinning in my quad myself, but I've been using 1"/25g. I just ordered some 1/2"/27g pins and 1/2"/28g insulin pins, as well. Once those come in I'll figure out which one is best for me and either keep pinning my quad or probably switch to my delt. I don't have much fat on my quad or delt, so I'm hoping the 1/2" will work ok.

A 1/2" needle will be just fine into your quads or delts. If you are pretty lean there, without much fat, that 1/2" needle will probably be going shallow IM.

 

[Re-Ride]

hCG has a short life. EOD is superior as Jackie mentioned. Pro'ly more important for the hCG mono user than the duo-therapy user. May reduce aromatization.

Thinking you've got this figured out:

hCG injections
On an insulin syringe the "unit" markings have noting to do with I.U.'s of hCG. We make use of these "unit" graduations only because they happen to coincide with volume in ml's. "75 units" happens to coincide with a syringe volume of 3/4 of one ml or 0.75ml.

Forum readers only need to know hCG in I.U. per injection x injections per week, not the volume.

A pt log will usually contain:
date of reconstitution
dilution
lot numbers

Daily log: time, I.U.'s, symptoms if any, progress, supplements, A.I. if used, key lab results with number of hours elapsed at draw since last injection.

Your doc likely referenced "75 insulin units" as a way for you to set the plunger volume knowing that you have been instructed to prepare a dilution of 2000 I.U. per ml. He could have easily said "uptake 3/4 of an ml ( 0.75 ml) for injection" but likely was concerned that your insulin syringe had no markings in ml volume.

Insulin syringes are the easiest and most convenient method for hCG delivery. A 31 G is so comfortable for most that they can inject every day. Advantages: less waste of medicine, more accurate measurement at low volume, easier storage and disposal, low cost, readily available Disadvantage: subQ only

Luer Lock syringes are useful for IM of hCG which some feel yields a slower more sustained release. 30-31 G x 1" or 1-1/4" work great for IM.

I alternate injection sites and keep a supply of short and long points handy. Thick skinned persons such as myself do better with a fresh point after uptake. A 27 G stubby point works well for uptake. After uptake and with the syringe aimed at the sky pull the plunger back fast to suck all medicine out of the uptake point. Air can and should enter the syringe but will expelled in a moment. Remove the uptake point. Install fine injection point. With syringe still pointing up expel the air -slowly- until a drop appears at the point. Inject.

 

[You Gonna Learn Today]

Ok, this makes sense now.



YGLT, do us all a favor here, ok? When you're talking HCG dosage, just say you're pinning 750 IUs twice a week, or 1500 IUs per week. It's much easier to understand that way.



A 1/2" needle will be just fine into your quads or delts. If you are pretty lean there, without much fat, that 1/2" needle will probably be going shallow IM.

Thanks again, JT. Noted for all future posts. Speaking of, just pinned this morning with the new protocol. I appreciate your help!

 

[You Gonna Learn Today]

hCG has a short life. EOD is superior as Jackie mentioned. Pro'ly more important for the hCG mono user than the duo-therapy user. May reduce aromatization.

Thinking you've got this figured out:

hCG injections
On an insulin syringe the "unit" markings have noting to do with I.U.'s of hCG. We make use of these "unit" graduations only because they happen to coincide with volume in ml's. "75 units" happens to coincide with a syringe volume of 3/4 of one ml or 0.75ml.

Forum readers only need to know hCG in I.U. per injection x injections per week, not the volume.

A pt log will usually contain:
date of reconstitution
dilution
lot numbers

Daily log: time, I.U.'s, symptoms if any, progress, supplements, A.I. if used, key lab results with number of hours elapsed at draw since last injection.

Your doc likely referenced "75 insulin units" as a way for you to set the plunger volume knowing that you have been instructed to prepare a dilution of 2000 I.U. per ml. He could have easily said "uptake 3/4 of an ml ( 0.75 ml) for injection" but likely was concerned that your insulin syringe had no markings in ml volume.

Insulin syringes are the easiest and most convenient method for hCG delivery. A 31 G is so comfortable for most that they can inject every day. Advantages: less waste of medicine, more accurate measurement at low volume, easier storage and disposal, low cost, readily available Disadvantage: subQ only

Luer Lock syringes are useful for IM of hCG which some feel yields a slower more sustained release. 30-31 G x 1" or 1-1/4" work great for IM.

I alternate injection sites and keep a supply of short and long points handy. Thick skinned persons such as myself do better with a fresh point after uptake. A 27 G stubby point works well for uptake. After uptake and with the syringe aimed at the sky pull the plunger back fast to suck all medicine out of the uptake point. Air can and should enter the syringe but will expelled in a moment. Remove the uptake point. Install fine injection point. With syringe still pointing up expel the air -slowly- until a drop appears at the point. Inject.

Thanks for the information you've shared, RR. All of the information I've been provided in this post has been really helpful to me. I've learned a lot already, so with this information I shouldn't waste another year feeling like crap. As mentioned in my previous response, I just started my new protocol of 500 IU (HCG) EOD, along with 100mg of TCyp E3.5D and stopped taking the AI. Hoping to start leveling out in the very near future and finally get back to enjoying life!

Again, thanks to everyone who responded to my post, I greatly appreciate the feedback and knowledge shared.