Stopping TRT after 13 months

[masterwhitlock]

hi everyone

for reasons we do not need to discuss i am looking to stop my trt regieme after 13 months off being on

i am taking 3x a week HCG and testosterone only no AI

I was planning to stop Test completely and proceed to take HCG 200ui every day for 3 weeks as I say mentioned in another thread and then stop the HCG

any advice kindly welcome

 

[CoastWatcher]

How old are you and what were your pre-TRT levesl? How much HCG have you been taking during the course of your regimen? I assume you are dealing with secondary hypogonadism?

 

[Vince]

I wonder what would happen if you just stopped everything and let your body recover on its own?

 

[Gman86]

I wonder what would happen if you just stopped everything and let your body recover on its own?

All that would happen is that it might take slightly longer for his natural levels to reach baseline. But not much longer, if longer at all. His levels are going to end up at the same exact place whether he does HCG mono for 3 weeks or not. All doing the HCG mono is going to do, hypothetically, is force his testicles to produce endogenous testosterone, which will then start to drop once he discontinues the HCG, and hopefully his HPA starts kicking back in and starts producing enough LH and FSH to make sure his testosterone levels don’t go too low. But HCG is as suppressive on the system as testosterone. So LH and FSH will be at zero, until the HCG starts to leave his system.

Since HCG is just as suppressive as as testosterone, it’s debatable whether it will be a smoother transition doing HCG mono, and then stopping, or just stopping cold turkey. Either way, your suppressed HPA is not going to come back online until the HCG is out of your system, just like if someone were to stop testosterone by itself. Either way, the HPA isn’t going to come back online until either are out of the system.

Now clomid, that’s different. That’s not suppressive. That tells the pituitary to pump out more LH and FSH. So clomid might actually make sense. You raise your levels with clomid, and then taper off. And as you taper off, hopefully your LH + FSH levels end up just dropping, but stop once they hit your baseline.

Either way, you’re always going to end up at wherever your current baseline is. Using clomid or HCG isn’t going to change that. There’s no such thing as a “restart”. Clomid just offers a smoother transition period between testosterone use, and reaching your baseline. HCG is just as suppressive as testosterone, so there should not be much difference between stopping testosterone cold turkey, and using HCG mono for a period of time after discontinuing testosterone. By using HCG mono briefly, you most likely are just extending the period of suppression, and delaying the process of your HPA kicking back in.

 

[Systemlord]

If you stop TRT you will go right back to the levels you had pre-TRT.

 

[Gman86]

If you stop TRT you will go right back to the levels you had pre-TRT.

Exactly. I should of just said that lol. But just keep in mind, you may have a slightly lower baseline, just from being a little older and environmental factors and all that junk.

 

[masterwhitlock]

thank you for your replies everyone! I am 33 .
i think i will just stop the test and hcg today and see what happens
i accept i am going back to base line but i can handle that
i dont have acccess to clomida
worst case i can just come back on again in the future

 

[masterwhitlock]

yes i am secondary my levels were about 330

 

[StepbyStep]

Having stopped TRT over 2 months ago, I say keep up with the HCG for 3 weeks after the Test. The test will take 4 weeks or so before it is mostly out of your system, and your HPTA can start back up.

By continuing the HCG for three weeks, your T levels won't plummet as fast, but more importantly your testicles will be ready to receive LH. After you quit the HCG it will leave your system quickly due to its much shorter half life.

 

[BigBamBoo]

I recently stopped and did it cold turkey. Thought about doing HGC for a few weeks, but then just decided to stop everything and let my system clean out faster.

I had ZERO crash. I was prepared for the worst, but it was if nothing really changed except all the negative symptoms from the TRT went away pretty quickly.

Yes, everyone is different and your experience might be different. Good luck to you.