Results After 4 Weeks Nolvadex (HPTA Restart)- Failed

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isos266

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September 08 2016: was experiencing these symptoms slowly increasing the past year: Lack of energy (fatigue), mood changes, brain fog, decreased sex drive, low motivation, sore longer after workouts + decrease strength, some depression.
Ordered my own simple bloodwork: http://imgur.com/a/yd1an

September 19 2016: Went to doc and told him my symptoms and ordered more bloodwork: http://imgur.com/eJ9mwMdhttp://imgur.com/KtkFbPx (CBC+CMP) Doctor said that I am "normal" and no reason to worry despite terrible numbers all around. **** that.

October 2016: Went to see a urologist that had some knowledge with TRT and hormones. Doc checked my previous results and I recommended to restart my HPTA, to which he agreed. 4 weeks of HCG and then 4 Weeks of Nolvdex, protocol described below.

November 1 2016: *Start HCG dosage 270IU EOD, Arimidex .25mg 2X week This protocol will be used for 4 weeks before moving on to Nolvadex.
November 28 2016 blood work(only HCG + Arimidex): http://imgur.com/lLwWQqk

I felt absolutely better throughout these 4 weeks. Symptoms were melting away and meaningless. Every aspect of my life I felt improvement in and I told myself that I could never go back to the quality of life I've been feeling the past year. Everything was just easy for me now, and I didn't realize how hard everything was prior. I crashed my E2 in the beginning of the protocol and backed off the arimidex which is why my E2 is a little high (although this is not a sensitive E2 test).

December 1st 2016: Start Nolvdex 20mg EOD + .25mg Arimidex 2x week. *By december 12th I was starting to feel worse off, and some of my symptoms were starting to appear again. I definitely did not feel as good as I did on HCG, but I trucked through the roller coaster. I thought my testosterone tanked, but I was wrong:
December 28 2016 blood work (just nolvadex and arimidex): http://imgur.com/0i1sjff
*I feel like absolute garbage despite pretty ok results after the Nolvadex protocol. My symptoms are coming back and I feel even more depressive at this stage than before.

February 2 2017

So, Its been 4 weeks after dropping Nolvadex. During this time off of everything, it was time to see if my HPTA could stand up on its own. Well, it cant.

During these 4 weeks I felt like absolute shit. I literally feel 80 yrs old now. My joints are dry and creaky as ****. Feels like i have arthritis all over, cant really do anything because my joints are just ****ed. Wrists hurt typing this. Low Estrogen i know.

Anyways, what do you think about these results? I am going to see my doctor this week for a follow up and would like some talking points. It seems like my SHBG dropped from 60s to 40 in 4 weeks? Overall, my symptoms are worse than ever.
Bloodwork: http://imgur.com/a/0eQNE
Symptoms: http://imgur.com/a/MdPdA
 
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Gman86

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That's weird that your SHBG didn't go down while on HCG. HCG has always increased my testosterone and therefore lowered my SHBG 10 points which put it from around 53 to around 39. A restart didn't work for me either, and it doesn't for most. Usually it can only get you to your baseline. So if your baseline is hypogonadal, that's what you're going to end up at again after it's out of your system. You thinking you're going to try HCG again since it worked so well for you before?
 
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