Recent Labs - tjlab

[tjlab]

Here are my recent labs, just got them back today. This was my trough level before injection. Injection schedule is Monday AM, Thursday PM.

My current protocol for last 4 weeks...

No HCG, No AI

(25cc x 2 weekly) 27 gauge 1/2" injection in delts/alternating = should equal 100mg or .5cc weekly

I want to make sure I am injecting the correct dose as I stated above. Does the 25cc equal 50mg according the below syringe? How do my numbers look? Thanks.

 

[MG123]

Your syringes are 1mL. So 25 units on the syringe equals .25mL or cc. So yes, as long as your testosterone is 200mg/mL, then 25 units on your syringe will equal 50 mg of testosterone.

Your numbers, other than your DHEA being on the low side, look fine to me. Keep an eye on that hematocrit though.

 

[tjlab]

Thanks and I will!

Your syringes are 1mL. So 25 units on the syringe equals .25mL or cc. So yes, as long as your testosterone is 200mg/mL, then 25 units on your syringe will equal 50 mg of testosterone.

Your numbers, other than your DHEA being on the low side, look fine to me. Keep an eye on that hematocrit though.

 

[johndoesmith]

I would highly recommend the .5cc version of that syringe. MUCH easier to measure with and maintain consistency.

Excellent trough, although you have the wrong E2 test, and assuming it's overestimating your E2 is rather lowish.

How do you feel?! That's the most important!

HCT is highish, so watch that, as the other poster said.

Thyroid is great, is that natural?

Might want to add DHEA into your protocol.

 

[tjlab]

What E2 test do I need? I feel good just a little anxiety at times!

I take 75mcg of Synthroid daily.

 

[johndoesmith]

What E2 test do I need? I feel good just a little anxiety at times!

I take 75mcg of Synthroid daily.

The sensitive E2 test. Always. There is no substitute.

 

[tjlab]

You talking about this one?

 

[tjlab]

Are you saying my E2 would probably be higher with a E2 sensitive test?

 

[johndoesmith]

Are you saying my E2 would probably be higher with a E2 sensitive test?

Negative. My suspicion was correct, assuming the "TMS" assay is sensitive, which it looks like it is, and that these tests were taken simultaneously, the 39 and 21 tests.

If that's your sensitive E2 with a trough of 933, that is insanely low aromatization levels. I am not sure why, or how, or even what to do to increase aromatization. Your SHBG is pretty decent, allowing for sufficient free test. DHEA may help.

 

[tjlab]

Thanks man! That really clears things up for me.

 

[johndoesmith]

Thanks man! That really clears things up for me.

Question, were those E2 tests drawn simultaneously?

The 21 E2 level and 38 E2 level?

Glad to have helped.

 

[Weasel]

Negative. My suspicion was correct, assuming the "TMS" assay is sensitive, which it looks like it is, and that these tests were taken simultaneously, the 39 and 21 tests.

If that's your sensitive E2 with a trough of 933, that is insanely low aromatization levels. I am not sure why, or how, or even what to do to increase aromatization. Your SHBG is pretty decent, allowing for sufficient free test. DHEA may help.

While I'd agree that his e2 may be slightly low, it isn't terribly low given he shbg level.

 

[tjlab]

Yes, they were drawn on the same day.

 

[tjlab]

are there any archives or discussion on diet and insulin sensitivity? are there any good diets that people have had success with?

 

[CoastWatcher]

are there any archives or discussion on diet and insulin sensitivity? are there any good diets that people have had success with?

There has been discussion on the topic. Use the search box to see what is here on the Forum.

 

[johndoesmith]

While I'd agree that his e2 may be slightly low, it isn't terribly low given he shbg level.

T/E2 ratio of 44. That is low by most standards, surprisingly low for his level of free test and his being on exogenous testosterone.

OP isn't too symptomatic, but I suspect he'd feel better a bit higher.

Yes, free E2 will be higher due to lower SHBG, but AFAIK SHBG has the least direct impact upon free E2 levels due to its preferential binding of DHT>Test>E2.

 

[tjlab]

Awesome! Thanks for the reply. Are you saying I need an AI or is my E2 good?

Also, I am at 50mg twice weekly. Should I slightly drop my dosage to get my Free T in range...maybe to 45mg twice weekly?

 

[johndoesmith]

Awesome! Thanks for the reply. Are you saying I need an AI or is my E2 good?

Also, I am at 50mg twice weekly. Should I slightly drop my dosage to get my Free T in range...maybe to 45mg twice weekly?

I am saying your T/E2 ratio is HIGH, which means you don't aromatize much, not that you need AI.

Free test assays aren't the most reliable, and with a free testosterone calculator yours is at 27 which I generally use a range of 9-26 for. That's not that high. You're not having any negative side effects, and I imagine if it were lower, your E2 would be lower which WOULD have some long term risks IMO.