PCT after 16 weeks cycle

[Eddy_W]

Hello everyone. Please, I need your help.

I'm 32 years old. Before the cycle, my weight was 73 kg. After the cycle, it was 86 kg, now it's 79.5 kg. The cycle lasted 16 weeks. I took 500 testosterone every week. At the end, I added 4 weeks of Anavar, but I'm not sure if it's real. Then I did my first PCT, which apparently involved counterfeit pills (I bought them from the same place I bought Anavar).

Now I'm already on day 20 of second PCT. I did not use hCG at all. I took Clomid 100 for 14 days, now Clomid 50. And the whole time PCT I've been taking tamoxifen 20. My testosterone levels are good, even above normal. 11.1 ng/mL (≈1110 ng/dL). Prolactin 10.9 ng/mL. Estrogen 55.1 pg/mL. But I have problems with libido, arousal, and erections. I'm very concerned about this.

Three photos, these are my tests before the second PCT.

 

[Eddy_W]

These are my tests on 9th day of PCT.

 

[Eddy_W]

These are my E2 and prolactin on 19th day of PCT.

 

[Eddy_W]

Do I need Arimidex now? What else can you recommend? I really need help; my psychological state is critical. In addition to problems with erectile dysfunction, libido, and arousal, I also constantly feel tired, apathetic, irritable, and tearful.

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

Do I need Arimidex now? What else can you recommend? I really need help; my psychological state is critical. In addition to problems with erectile dysfunction, libido, and arousal, I also constantly feel tired, apathetic, irritable, and tearful.

First, all that Clomid in your system can create the symptoms you describe, and if you stop now it will take 4-6 weeks for it to mostly clear out, and then more time for your body to reset. If I'm understanding your situaiton correctly, you're going to have to give your body a chance to reset and let the drugs completely clear out. Cialis/Viagra and possibly a low dose of PT-141 should address the erection issues and some of the libido issues, but it sounds like time in a steady hormonal state is what you need most. If you eventually need clomid to maintain healthy T levels, use only a low dose, like 12mg every other day, but I wouldn't even think about that until about 3 months have passed and you can se what your status is then. I think bovine testicle powder is worth using ( I have used the Grazin and Heart and Soil brands) but very few people do that.

 

[madman]

Hello everyone. Please, I need your help.

I'm 32 years old. Before the cycle, my weight was 73 kg. After the cycle, it was 86 kg, now it's 79.5 kg. The cycle lasted 16 weeks. I took 500 testosterone every week. At the end, I added 4 weeks of Anavar, but I'm not sure if it's real. Then I did my first PCT, which apparently involved counterfeit pills (I bought them from the same place I bought Anavar).

Now I'm already on day 20 of second PCT. I did not use hCG at all. I took Clomid 100 for 14 days, now Clomid 50. And the whole time PCT I've been taking tamoxifen 20. My testosterone levels are good, even above normal. 11.1 ng/mL (≈1110 ng/dL). Prolactin 10.9 ng/mL. Estrogen 55.1 pg/mL. But I have problems with libido, arousal, and erections. I'm very concerned about this.

Three photos, these are my tests before the second PCT.

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Jul 20, 2025

Hi Madman thanks for taking the reply, it was actually your advice that allowed me find a balance with previous issues so thanks again for that.

I’ve got 3 kids and no intentions of adding any more under any circumstances so fertility has no bearing on my life thankfully. I was essentially just looking for guidance on if it would be possible to PCT off this cycle to find what baseline would look and feel like to allow a comparison to TRT. As I said I’ve not really found TRT to be of any real benefit whatsoever and have considered many times whether it’s worth continuing. It may be...

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[Eddy_W]

First, all that Clomid in your system can create the symptoms you describe, and if you stop now it will take 4-6 weeks for it to mostly clear out, and then more time for your body to reset. If I'm understanding your situaiton correctly, you're going to have to give your body a chance to reset and let the drugs completely clear out. Cialis/Viagra and possibly a low dose of PT-141 should address the erection issues and some of the libido issues, but it sounds like time in a steady hormonal state is what you need most. If you eventually need clomid to maintain healthy T levels, use only a low dose, like 12mg every other day, but I wouldn't even think about that until about 3 months have passed and you can se what your status is then. I think bovine testicle powder is worth using ( I have used the Grazin and Heart and Soil brands) but very few people do that.

So, should I stop taking Clomid now? I'm on day 22 of PCT. Or should I stop taking Clomid only on day 29? Should I continue taking tamoxifen? Do you mean I just need time to recover? One more question. Could my sexual problems be related to the fact that I didn't take hCG? Should I stop PCT, start taking hCG, and then repeat PCT?

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

So, should I stop taking Clomid now? I'm on day 22 of PCT. Or should I stop taking Clomid only on day 29? Should I continue taking tamoxifen? Do you mean I just need time to recover? One more question. Could my sexual problems be related to the fact that I didn't take hCG? Should I stop PCT, start taking hCG, and then repeat PCT?

Given your high T levels (I am assuming you have been off of exogenous T long enough that it is from natural production) then the sooner you stop the PCT the sooner your body can normalize and hopefully return to a healthy state overall. PCT is to restore your natural T levels and you apparently have done so. There is no reason I can see to take HCG now. The longer you stay on the clomid and tamox the longer it will take to clear out, and they could be causing a lot of your problems.

 

[Eddy_W]

Given your high T levels (I am assuming you have been off of exogenous T long enough that it is from natural production) then the sooner you stop the PCT the sooner your body can normalize and hopefully return to a healthy state overall. PCT is to restore your natural T levels and you apparently have done so. There is no reason I can see to take HCG now. The longer you stay on the clomid and tamox the longer it will take to clear out, and they could be causing a lot of your problems.

Thank you very much. Then I'll stop PCT and wait for my body to recover. Can you also recommend sports supplements for better recovery?