Hi,
I hope this is in the right section.
In December of 2016 I was 285lbs 5'11"
Pre TRT Total Test level was 190 ng/dl with free test at 135 pg/ml
Currently 47 years old 5'11" 227lbs. Been in the gym and meal prepping for 1 year and 3months
I am prescribed 200 mg Test Cyp i taken- 100mg Sunday AM & 100 mg Wednesday PM
HCG at a total of 1000ius a week taken on the Friday-5th(500iu) & Saturday-6th day(500iu)
After 60day on TRT I took my first set of labs
Labs from 90 days ago... (1st labs since beginning TRT)
Total Test- 1067 ng/dl
Free test- 198.5 pg/ml
Estridol - 31.9 pg/ml
Hemocrit- 45.3
Hemglobin- 14.9g/dl
RBC- 4.97
PSA 0.7 ng/ml
T3, Free- 3.7pg/ml
Doc said free test is kind of high as is total test- I pointed out that testing day was only 1.5days after last injection on Wednesday pm so this was not my "trough" That seemed to satisfy him so we kept rolling with the same protocol.
Labs from June 1st, 2018
Total Test- 1071 ng/dl
Free test- 232 pg/ml
Estridol - 78 pg/ml
Hemocrit- 47.3
Hemglobin- 16.3 g/dl
RBC- 5.23
PSA 0.7 ng/ml
T3, Free- 5.3 pg/m
Had my appointment with my Dr on the 13th of June.
He came in the room and said we have some issues... Which I already knew about the Estridol
He proceeded to tell me that my total test was high and my free test is "way" too high as well as my estridol.
I told him about my symptoms of not feeling good for the past 3-4 weeks along with mood swings and overall feeling of "blah" as well as minor swelling of my hands and feet.(i read somewhere that this could be a symptom of high estridol)
I also informed him that my testicles were not responding to the HCG and we still shrunken a good bit.
I then asked him if I needed an AI to reduce the estridol and he simply told me his recommendation was the following...
Reduce testosterone to 150 mg per week, increase HCG to 2000ius 2x a week(total of 4000ius) ???
and retest in 6-8 weeks and then decide if we need an AI.....
My CONCERN.... I dont feel good and want to feel better. we didnt do labs on my trough day so I think the 200mg test is ok...but i am open to reducing to 150mg of test per week.
I have read quite a bit on HCG and isn't this dose WAY to much... Wont this spike my estridol as well?
My main concern is following these instructions and being miserable for another 1.5-2 mths?
My question is does my Drs plan of action sound like best way to go? Or should we get estridol under control with an AI and then re-evaluate?
Please give me some feedback on my situation...
Thanks in Advance,
Wayne
I hope this is in the right section.
In December of 2016 I was 285lbs 5'11"
Pre TRT Total Test level was 190 ng/dl with free test at 135 pg/ml
Currently 47 years old 5'11" 227lbs. Been in the gym and meal prepping for 1 year and 3months
I am prescribed 200 mg Test Cyp i taken- 100mg Sunday AM & 100 mg Wednesday PM
HCG at a total of 1000ius a week taken on the Friday-5th(500iu) & Saturday-6th day(500iu)
After 60day on TRT I took my first set of labs
Labs from 90 days ago... (1st labs since beginning TRT)
Total Test- 1067 ng/dl
Free test- 198.5 pg/ml
Estridol - 31.9 pg/ml
Hemocrit- 45.3
Hemglobin- 14.9g/dl
RBC- 4.97
PSA 0.7 ng/ml
T3, Free- 3.7pg/ml
Doc said free test is kind of high as is total test- I pointed out that testing day was only 1.5days after last injection on Wednesday pm so this was not my "trough" That seemed to satisfy him so we kept rolling with the same protocol.
Labs from June 1st, 2018
Total Test- 1071 ng/dl
Free test- 232 pg/ml
Estridol - 78 pg/ml
Hemocrit- 47.3
Hemglobin- 16.3 g/dl
RBC- 5.23
PSA 0.7 ng/ml
T3, Free- 5.3 pg/m
Had my appointment with my Dr on the 13th of June.
He came in the room and said we have some issues... Which I already knew about the Estridol
He proceeded to tell me that my total test was high and my free test is "way" too high as well as my estridol.
I told him about my symptoms of not feeling good for the past 3-4 weeks along with mood swings and overall feeling of "blah" as well as minor swelling of my hands and feet.(i read somewhere that this could be a symptom of high estridol)
I also informed him that my testicles were not responding to the HCG and we still shrunken a good bit.
I then asked him if I needed an AI to reduce the estridol and he simply told me his recommendation was the following...
Reduce testosterone to 150 mg per week, increase HCG to 2000ius 2x a week(total of 4000ius) ???
and retest in 6-8 weeks and then decide if we need an AI.....
My CONCERN.... I dont feel good and want to feel better. we didnt do labs on my trough day so I think the 200mg test is ok...but i am open to reducing to 150mg of test per week.
I have read quite a bit on HCG and isn't this dose WAY to much... Wont this spike my estridol as well?
My main concern is following these instructions and being miserable for another 1.5-2 mths?
My question is does my Drs plan of action sound like best way to go? Or should we get estridol under control with an AI and then re-evaluate?
Please give me some feedback on my situation...
Thanks in Advance,
Wayne