Injection site and muscle aesthetic/functionality plus different inj site and absorption rate?

[Gianluca]

I'm wondering if long term injections would effect muscle fibers in a way that you can't develop them anymore with resistance training therefore effecting their functionality, limiting muscle hypertrophy and aesthetic. Side deltoid is pretty convenient site injection. Although several months ago I used to do everyday protocol and hitting each deltoid once or twice per week with 30g 5/16 insulin syringe, and developing pretty quickly some lumps that I could notice in the mirror. Maybe the injection was too superficial and needle too thin? I would use now a 28G 1/2"

I'm now back on M/W/F protocol and deciding what could be the best sites to use.


Is there any different in absorption rate with different injection sites? example side deltoid compared to quads and the side of the glute? these would be the injection sites I have in mind, although quads is often quiet uncomfortable

 

[BJE]

I'm wondering if long term injections would effect muscle fibers in a way that you can't develop them anymore with resistance training therefore effecting their functionality, limiting muscle hypertrophy and aesthetic. Side deltoid is pretty convenient site injection. Although several months ago I used to do everyday protocol and hitting each deltoid once or twice per week with 30g 5/16 insulin syringe, and developing pretty quickly some lumps that I could notice in the mirror. Maybe the injection was too superficial and needle too thin? I would use now a 28G 1/2"

I'm now back on M/W/F protocol and deciding what could be the best sites to use.


Is there any different in absorption rate with different injection sites? example side deltoid compared to quads and the side of the glute? these would be the injection sites I have in mind, although quads is often quiet uncomfortable

If you are already using insulin syringes why don’t you switch to sub cutaneous injections? I inject with an insulin syringe twice a week into my butt fat. No muscle damage that way.

 

[antelopers]

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/jpet/281/1/93/F1.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1

This is done with a phenylpropionate ester, but there is somewhat of a difference in absorption between deltoid and glute. How much that makes a difference over time I'm not really sure, it's probably not very significant.

 

[Vince]

As you probably know I really like injecting in my shoulders and VG. I've been injecting in my shoulders now for over 4 years, two to three times a week. At times I do get some bruising or bleeding, I have become very good now at injecting. Besides that I've never had any issues and of course no scar's or permanent bumps. I wonder if it's because I work out my shoulders regularly.

 

[psaufan]

As you probably know I really like injecting in my shoulders and VG. I've been injecting in my shoulders now for over 4 years, two to three times a week. At times I do get some bruising or bleeding, I have become very good now at injecting. Besides that I've never had any issues and of course no scar's or permanent bumps. I wonder if it's because I work out my shoulders regularly.

I have been doing shoulders EOD, rotating...injecting 40 mg each time. Same size syringe/needle that your use. Is there a max that can be injected shallow IM into the shoulder? I was considering going E3D at 60mg each injection.

 

[Vince]

I have been doing shoulders EOD, rotating...injecting 40 mg each time. Same size syringe/needle that your use. Is there a max that can be injected shallow IM into the shoulder? I was considering going E3D at 60mg each injection.

I injected up to 100 mg of testosterone cypionate (each injection) twice a week in my shoulders and had no issues.

 

[Gianluca]

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/jpet/281/1/93/F1.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1

This is done with a phenylpropionate ester, but there is somewhat of a difference in absorption between deltoid and glute. How much that makes a difference over time I'm not really sure, it's probably not very significant.

nice graph, yes very little difference

 

[Gianluca]

If you are already using insulin syringes why don’t you switch to sub cutaneous injections? I inject with an insulin syringe twice a week into my butt fat. No muscle damage that way.

I just switched from SubQ, that was not working, I did two injections IM and I already tell the difference

 

[psaufan]

I just switched from SubQ, that was not working, I did two injections IM and I already tell the difference

Honestly, I felt better doing IM with a 25ga-1" into my glutes E3D. Well, the wife did them as I found it hard to twist and do them myself. I travel a lot, so I find I can do a shoulder shallow IM easily.

So, I'm in a bind here. Feel better with glutes or go with the easier shallow IM into the shoulder.

 

[Gianluca]

Honestly, I felt better doing IM with a 25ga-1" into my glutes E3D. Well, the wife did them as I found it hard to twist and do them myself. I travel a lot, so I find I can do a shoulder shallow IM easily.

So, I'm in a bind here. Feel better with glutes or go with the easier shallow IM into the shoulder.

interesting, so you can feel the difference between shoulder and glute injection?

 

[psaufan]

interesting, so you can feel the difference between shoulder and glute injection?

I've made no diet changes or lifestyle changes since I started the shoulder injection three months ago. I've noticed my libido has cashed and my energy level has dropped. is it tied solely to the shoulder injections? I can't say for sure, but what changed? The injection site.

 

[BJE]

I just switched from SubQ, that was not working, I did two injections IM and I already tell the difference

I’ve been doing SQ injections for seven years. It’s been great for me.

 

[Vince Carter]

Instead of mg's that you can inject in X spot(s) you need to rethink it to the volume of fluid that you can inject be it sq/im/shallow IM or however you want to do it. I tend to see more fluid being more problematic in the SQ type. I mean, you shoot .5cc of oil and you're more likely to have a lump or other post site reaction that if you injected, lets say, .1cc. If you're going to shoot a volume like .5cc + going deeper may be the way forward.