I did not see the same results from the less expensive pine bark as I did from the actual pycnogenol when combined with l-citrulline to reduce ED symptoms. I think if it doesn't speak French when you open the bottle you'll have problems, haha. I bought the pine bark from puritans pride which always has a buy 1 get 15 sale going on so I tried several bottles before determining there was a difference for me.
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