For those on Testosterone who cannot tolerate Clomid or HCG........

righteous99

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I have been on testosterone cream for a few years now, and I do wonder if I could ever stop this and I do want to maintain some natural production of testosterone. I am not at all concerned about fertility. I cannot tolerate Clomid/Enclomiphene or HCG due to mood issues. My body rejects both for some reason.

Are there any alternatives? I have heard about testicular massage. I also have heard that some folks cycle on and off with their testosterone cream. Any suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks!
 
I have been on testosterone cream for a few years now, and I do wonder if I could ever stop this and I do want to maintain some natural production of testosterone. I am not at all concerned about fertility. I cannot tolerate Clomid/Enclomiphene or HCG due to mood issues. My body rejects both for some reason.

Are there any alternatives? I have heard about testicular massage. I also have heard that some folks cycle on and off with their testosterone cream. Any suggestions are welcomed.

Thanks!
Heard from Dave Asprey that he cycled, six weeks on, ten days off. Not sure how he does it today as he invested in Maximus, which could suggest that he is using enclomiphene.
 
I have been on testosterone cream for a few years now, and I do wonder if I could ever stop this and I do want to maintain some natural production of testosterone.
I stopped oral testosterone, Jatenzo cold turkey recently and my HPTA was back up and functioning (labs to back it up) within 8 days after having been on TRT for 7 years with an 8 month break inbetween.

The half-life of testosterone cream and oral testosterone are similar. I don’t know how old you are but I’m 52 years old, so there’s no reason to think that you can’t bounce back once the exogenous testosterone is out of your system.
 
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I stopped oral testosterone, Jatenzo cold turkey recently and my HPTA was back up and functioning (labs to back it up) within 8 days after having been on TRT for 7 years with an 8 month break inbetween.

The half-life of testosterone cream and oral testosterone are similar. I don’t know how old you are but I’m 52 years old, so there’s no reason to think that you can’t bounce back once the exogenous testosterone is out of your system.

@Systemlord - why did you stop Jatenzo? Thanks for your reply.
 

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