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Oops, I did not notice it . Sorry. Then that blood level is pretty good for 75 mg total per week! I would not go down unless you see a need to do so,

Try taking a Claritin and ibuprofen while you are on Cialis before bed time and let me know if you sleep better and your stamina improves.

Remind me of your work outs and nutrition, please. Sometimes I see a short term use of diuretics like hydrochlorothiazide can decrease weight gain caused by water retention induced by TRT in some men with insulin sensitivity issues.

By the way, are you still taking those two doses of salt per day?
 
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Thanks Nelson. I think I will decrease because I seem to feel better at a slightly lower level. Also, perhaps it will keep my H&H down. Last time I felt good when I was on 60mg a week, but I bumped it to 75mg to see if that would work. I don't think I handle more T well for some reason!

I will give the claritin and ibuprofen a try to see if that works.

I still do the salt dose but it amounts to about 1/4 teaspoon in the morning and again in the evening.

Thanks again
 

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Chris I saw that too. I have enough to last me a month or so but after that I don't know what I'm gonna do!

You could try taking an adrenal cortex supplement. There are a few on the market, Nutricology is one.
Just make sure you get adrenal cortex and not whole adrenal, which could contain adrenaline (epinephrine).
 
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Here is all they said when I inquired

"Unfortunately Isocort was discontinued last May after the owner of the company did a product review. Please consult with your practitioner for suggestions on alternative products."
 

Vettester Chris

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Yeah, something's up with the whole Isocort thing, I can only speculate ...

My cortisol levels are sluggish, especially morning. I'm going to try the Circadian T3 Method, since Isocort is gone.
 
I will have to look up the circadian t3 method. I think mine is sluggish too.

In the meantime I am dropping my T dose to 60mg per week. If I am over 1000 on 75 I think a little less will be more.
 
As a note this week I stopped the t injections. I know folks say don't but I have noticed in the past that I felt better when I take a week off. Sure enough this week I have had random erections and felt better. My doc said it may be a form of tachyphylaxis where the receptors get saturated with t and down regulate. Anyway switching to creams again since I seem to feel better on them and they mimic daily patterns of t production.
 
I am still on 10mg compounded daily plus 250iu HCG 2x/week and not sure if anyone puts stock in saliva results, but here are mine

DHEA/s 11 (3-10) HIGH
Progesterone 90 (5-95)
Androstenedione 499 (151-350) HIGH
Estrone 128 (30-58) High
Testosterone >200 (50-80) HIGH
Estradiol 5 (1-3) HIGH
DHT >250 (52-123) HIGH

I can't see going lower than 10mg a day but will likely follow up with some blood work in the near future.
 
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