Do I Really Need TRT? Numbers Seem OK.

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Once you start down the path of TRT, you are altering your natural balance. That is a good thing for those who need it, and a very unwise move for those that don't. Your labs look great, don't start tinkering with your hormones as it will not likely lead to a positive place.

Loss of libido and motivation can be caused by a multitude of factors. Also, all of those factors may be interconnected. ALWAYS try the natural approach first, lifestyle changes, dietary changes, emotional and psychological changes... take inventory of your current state and note any adverse factors. Make changes to any negatives noted.

Age is also a factor that needs to be addressed. Any advice given to anyone needs to have the age equation applied.

From my personal experience, most of the ailments reported by people are from toxic lifestyles and unreasonable expectations. Again... that pesky age factor. Things do change as we age.

My personal story regarding TRT is a good example of a really dumb move. In my 40's (yes, I am an old guy) I started looking into hormonal enhancement. My labs at the time were great, really great as a matter of fact as I have been a very solid health enthusiast and a lifelong gym rat with good genetics. But... I read a few books that were popular and "hot" at the time and thought I needed to be proactive. I started on TRT along with HCG and an AI which was the protocol of the day. All of this was in an effort to increase and maximize my hormonal profile. I had no symptoms of "low T" (God, I hate that phrase). I was going to make myself supernatural. Well... 20 plus years later, I am still on TRT and have dialed in a fairly decent protocol. BUT, and this is a VERY BIG BUT (I like big butts, I cannot lie) I could have waited another 10-15 years to start TRT, or perhaps not ever start to begin with. I went through all of the missteps that every other TRT user has complained about. Did I learn a few things? Yes. The first and foremost thing is that "If it aint broke, don't fix it".

Neurotransmitter imbalance is the likely cause of most of the common complaints you see on these forums. Lifestyles, environmental factors, stress and other things can get them off balance. The VERY good thing about this is that with some changes, they can be corrected. Forming new and positive neuropathways is a very solid way to regain balance in your life. Remove any toxic factors and start making new positive changes. The human body is a miraculous thing and has natural ways of repairing itself. This includes your brain and emotional health.


An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. “A fight is going on inside me,” he said to the boy.

“It is a terrible fight, and it is between two wolves. One is evil – he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.” He continued, “The other is good – he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you – and inside every other person, too.”

The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, “Which wolf will win?”


The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

Grest summary!

How long have you been on hormones? I am in the same boat. Started way too early. "Be careful what you wish for."
 
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22 years...
Wow. Only been 6.5 for me but there is no going back now. Gateway to gainz.

Repent OP. Save yourself!



Canto 3​

"THROUGH me you pass into the city of woe:
Through me you pass into eternal pain:
Through me among the people lost for aye.
Justice the founder of my fabric mov'd:
To rear me was the task of power divine,
Supremest wisdom, and primeval love.
Before me things create were none, save things
Eternal, and eternal I endure.
"All hope abandon ye who enter here."
 
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Once you start down the path of TRT, you are altering your natural balance. That is a good thing for those who need it

That's far from a given. Even for those who truly need TRT, a lot of them spend years dealing with significant negative side effects trying to get dialed in without ever succeeding.

I'm specifying this because I don't want guys to assume that just because labs and symptoms justify it, TRT is going to make them feel better with any degree of certainty. It's unfortunately far more complex than that.
 
Free T is a bit low but still normal and then my SHBG is higher
You'll see this in bodybuilders cutting to get ripped which basically amounts to starvation. As a result testosterone production decreases and SHBG increases due to decreased insulin spikes and improvements in insulin sensitivity.
 
You'll see this in bodybuilders cutting to get ripped which basically amounts to starvation. As a result testosterone production decreases and SHBG increases due to decreased insulin spikes and improvements in insulin sensitivity.

misquoting me. OP said that. I didn't

Fyi. But props though, it take extra work to put a quotation under the wrong name on here.
 
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A 13 estrogen value is a deficiency for most adult men. Too boot his SHBG is high binding up more of that estrogen. I had recently came on Cialis due to insane hot flashes, estrogen was in the low teens.

I recall members reporting osteoporosis with estrogen at 16.

These normal ranges are poorly defined and have nothing to due with quality of life or a healthy population.

If the OP has no symptoms he is an outlier.
What would be the symptoms of low estrogen? I've never really considered estrogen - also, what would I even do about that?

Eat more soy? lol.. jk.
 
What would be the symptoms of low estrogen?
Low libido, osteoporosis, fatigue, erectile problems and hot flashes. Low libido is typically the first sign of declining testosterone and symptoms progress as levels drop lower.
I've never really considered estrogen - also, what would I even do about that?
Estrogen is made in the testicles and also converted from testosterone to estrogen via aromatase enzymes in fat tissue. I would feel like death with your estrogen levels and hot flashes would be the norm.
 
That's far from a given. Even for those who truly need TRT, a lot of them spend years dealing with significant negative side effects trying to get dialed in without ever succeeding.

I'm specifying this because I don't want guys to assume that just because labs and symptoms justify it, TRT is going to make them feel better with any degree of certainty. It's unfortunately far more complex than that.
Very true, some of us have a more fortunate experience than others.
 
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