Are you scared about your HDL going down on T.R.T??

[DannyManUK]

Hi Guys been on Nelson's forum for a good while but like too make a very important post.

I been on T.R.T for 3 months & half on the Injection protocol prior to that it was 2 Months on Transdermal Compounded TEST Cream, going for a Cholesterol test soon.

By how much did your HDL values drop on INJECTIONS was it significant for you, or not much at all over the years?

Please share your experiences guys each and every one of you, how it affected it lipids, as that is the biggest worry on T.R.T also besides Hematocrit. Can some guys bypass the HDL lowering effect or will every male get it who goes from Transdermal test onto injectable form?

Also to COMBAT all of this, did you start supplementing, Fish Oil EOD, Niacin 500-1000mg capsules or red rice yeast? Let me know below. You welcome, Danny

 

[fifty]

Mine dropped from 68-56. I just take 4g/day of carlson super omega-3 fish oil caps and otherwise eat normally.

Note I took the fish oil even before trt. That is good stuff.

 

[DannyManUK]

Same i added NIACIN recently, there is no Worry unless someones HDL value dropped by over 10 points, that would BE quite concerning.

 

[DannyManUK]

By the way 56 HDL is good still, what does your DIET consist mainly of? are you Omnivore eating both veggies & meats? what kind of diet plan did you adopt? do you think your HDL mainly increased from FISH oils too?

 

[DannyManUK]

Thanks @user_joe brother however is this Information below VALID which you said? and is it even on PUBMED?

Lowering estradiol too low will harm hdl the most.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Trt my results were optimal with hdl in 70s. Prior I do not know. Lowering estradiol too low will harm hdl the most.

I agree. Estradiol maintains good lipid balance.
Affect of anastrozole on lipids?


Physiological levels of estradiol correlate with lipid / lipoprotein profiles in healthy men

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Keeping your T dose within 100-200 mg per week helps to keep HDL from falling too much.

How to Increase Good Cholesterol (HDL)

 

[Joey786]

The only time my hdl dropped while on trt was when I took anastrozole back in the day. I stopped anastrozole years ago and my hdl recovered to 50-55 and has stayed there ever since.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

The only time my hdl dropped while on trt was when I took anastrozole back in the day. I stopped anastrozole years ago and my hdl recovered to 50-55 and has stayed there ever since.

Thanks for adding this comment.

The main reasons for low HDL on TRT are:

1- Metabolic dysfunction. Obesity. Poor diet
2- Anastrozole use.
3- High T dose use.
4- Adding anabolic steroids to TRT.

 

[barry1]

Hi Guys been on Nelson's forum for a good while but like too make a very important post.

I been on T.R.T for 3 months & half on the Injection protocol prior to that it was 2 Months on Transdermal Compounded TEST Cream, going for a Cholesterol test soon.

By how much did your HDL values drop on INJECTIONS was it significant for you, or not much at all over the years?

Please share your experiences guys each and every one of you, how it affected it lipids, as that is the biggest worry on T.R.T also besides Hematocrit. Can some guys bypass the HDL lowering effect or will every male get it who goes from Transdermal test onto injectable form?

Also to COMBAT all of this, did you start supplementing, Fish Oil EOD, Niacin 500-1000mg capsules or red rice yeast? Let me know below. You welcome, Danny

Which is the best niacin? Can't take the flush.

 

[Vince]

Which is the best niacin? Can't take the flush.

You receive no benefit when using no flush niacin.

 

[Tommy Wall]

Low HDL can also be ones genetics. As I understand it when the Cholesterol doesn´t make in to the cells like it should you will end having a surplus (high LDL) and HDL (the cleaner) thinks that it doesn´t need to clean that much because the cells don´t get enough. Only a theory

 

[Gman86]

Don’t forget about the thyroid. Healthy T3 levels, not just on paper, but enough T3 getting into the actual cells/ receptors, is one of the number one ways to control cholesterol. I didn’t realize this until recently, but there’s so many studies and anectodal stories about proper thyroid function and cholesterol levels. I’m surprised the link between cholesterol and thyroid function isn’t discussed more often.

 

[Vince]

I was told by my lipidology, they would start doing Labs checking the particles in the HDL cholesterol sometime this year. Just like they do with LDL cholesterol. At least then we'll know if we're making good HDL cholesterol or bad.