Lipo-C - Who's using / what doses?

Hey Folks,

I'm curious to see who is using Lipo-C, what your dose/injection schedule is, and what your results (subjective or not) are so far.

I recently started with Defy. Dr. Saya had no problem adding Lipo-C to my regimen. (I'm dying for more energy, and also want to lose fat / maintain muscle as I diet to get back in shape).

It appears that there's a lot of flexibility in terms of how much and how often to inject Lipo-C, with the only downside to more and more often being higher cost. I've been guided to start with 1ml 2-3x per week. But the Defy website mentions a high end of 1ml every day! (see below)

How to Administer Lipo-C:
Using a 5/8" 25g or 26g needle, inject 1ml-3ml of Lipo-C twice per week.
As an alternative, Lipo-C can be injected daily. Using a 1/2" "insulin" syringe, inject 1ml of Lipo-C subcutaneously every morning.

Money is not an issue for me right now - and I'm thinking about 1ml EOD or something for the first month to kind of "kick start" things. But wanted to get your feedback first.

I am actually not sure myself. I use 1.5 ml twice per week currently due to some griping I saw about pain. (minimizing injections).

I use the Defy sent .25 gauge Sub-q (5/8) needles. Since I switched to a .27 gauge needle for T-injections I figured I'd get use out of those needles to prevent the surface pain some have described.

I don't know that I feel that much different yet I've had mine about 3 weeks?

I have used this in the past and could never see or feel anything from it. I know its not a 'magic shot' for instant weight loss or energy, but still...never felt anything...perhaps its just me.

I use Lipo-C 5-7 times per week. Dose is 1ml, using a 29g 1/2" insulin syringe. When I first started I was doing SubQ in stomach and sides. This made me "lumpy" and was uncomfortable. I switched to upper glutes, shallow IM, and it's been great.

Thanks for the feedback so far guys.

Anyone else?

I am interested in Lipo-C as well, what is the cost? Any luck with weight loss?

Palermitano said:

I am interested in Lipo-C as well, what is the cost? Any luck with weight loss?

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Depending on where you get it, it's around $76-100 per 30ml vial. I get mine from Defy for $76 with the Doc's prescription. Here's a write-up on the expected benefits:
http://defymedical.com/video-education/health-articles/1-the-next-generation-of-fat-loss-injections

I just started, so time will tell on the weight loss. I'm aggressively dieting right now, and I know the biggest factor is "calories in vs. calories out" - but if this can boost my energy, accelerate some fat loss, and help preserve lean tissue - it's worth a short term investment to me...then I'll re-evaluate if I want to continue when I get to "maintenance."

I think I may have already told you before, but I'm pinning 1mL EOD into my quads. I've pinned this nutrient in every possible location, and this is the result:

Abdomen - burned like hell going in, and I can't take more than .5mLs without it leaving a lump.

Deltoids - burned like hell going in, 1mL left a big lump, and my shoulder was sore for 3 days.

Glutes - no burn or any PIP. The only problem is the difficulty pinning myself in this area.

Quads - no burn or PIP. Easiest location for me to pin. This is my "go to" spot.

The Lipo-C seems to give me a blast of energy post injection. Injecting very slowly seems to be the best technique to combat the burn.

Question for you guys. Any ideas on Half-Life of the key elements in Lipo-C?

I've seen dosing frequencies of daily, EOD, and 3x/week. Defy told me I can inject daily or 2-3 times per week in various amounts (1-3ml) as long as I don't exceed 9ml/week (calculated from 3 times per week at 3ml/injection).

Trying to figure out if I should do smaller daily injections or larger but less frequent injections.

Any comments?

Fireproof said:

Trying to figure out if I should do smaller daily injections or larger but less frequent injections.

Any comments?

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FP,

You're going to have to turn yourself into a lab rat, and find out what works best for you. Personally, I can't imagine pinning 3mLs of fluid in a single injection. That is a lot of fluid, and you're not going to be able to do that much SubQ.

I know it's a pain in the ass, but more frequency and less volume seems to work best (at least for me). I don't want to inject deep IM, and that's what you're going to have to do if you're thinking of injecting a large amount like 3mLs. Let us know how it pans out.

I did 1ml twice a week in the beginning, subq insulin pin in the belly, honestly didn't feel much of anything. Another downside is that your whole body reeks of B vitamins for a day after the shot.

Thanks guys. Interesting how we are all different, and I have no problem being a lab rat in that respect.

Here are some things I've tried:
- Tried injecting 1mm in multiple spots and had no issues in quads or belly subQ. I could feel a little bump for a while in the belly, probably due to 1mm being a lot of liquid, but no pain.
- Tried 2mm dose one day (2 separate 1mm injections - 1 in each quad) - and seemed to feel more of an energy boost that day. (Not sure if placebo effect though).
- Tried a week of daily 1mm shots for a week. Felt pretty good all week. (Not sure if placebo, and plus so many other things are in play, how can you really isolate?)
- Never noticed any smell or changes in body odor.

FWIW, YMMV, and all that.

I'll likely continue with probably near-daily injections of 1mm, since I believe in the ingredients. But after a couple months (after I've lost some more body fat) I'm likely going to taper off and stop and see if I notice any difference.

I just started taking Lipo-C from Defy early last week. I pin 1ml EOD and I can say I've noticed a slight increase in energy a few hours after taking it (like Fireproof, not sure if placebo affect as well). I may try the 2ml as separate pins on separate quads (I've only pinned quads to this point) to see if that does more for me. I may also switch to daily pins, to see if that helps as well. So far, I've lost about 5 lbs since originally starting it, but I'm not sure how much of that is related to TCyp, my changed diet, exercise, or Lipo-C. I do know, however, that this combination is working for me and I'm feeling really good, so I plan on continuing to take it but will see what dose and frequency works best for me.

I notice the odor, but for me I only smell it on my hands and spot where I pin so I wash my hands thoroughly after I'm done. I actually prepared my injections on my ironing board one time next to a couch in my room. I must have dropped a bit because I can still smell it from that time over a week and a half ago. The first day I took it, I did notice a strange mineral/vitamin taste in my mouth. But I have not noticed it since.

I'll post my findings once I figure out what has the best effect.

I just started on lipo-c today, 1 ml 2x a week. I was surprised at how much 1 ml really is! I injected it sub-q into my abdomen and didn't have any issues. Y'all are definitely right about the smell, it is pretty potent. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing any changes.

I received my Lipo-C this week and started it. I must have made a mistake by refrigerating it as I now can see the bottom layer has crystalized.

I've just started Lipo-c today as well. I'm injecting SQ 1ml per day.

Sound like more of an energy boosts then weight lose. Anyone else notice a weight loss benefit?

I'm hoping for weight loss benefit too - I'd be interested in hearing if others had this effect. Just started today and was planning 1ml 3x week.

I use it and have seen great results.

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I use it and have seen great results.

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weight loss?