HCG + Clomid or HCG only ?

Bolex

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I am 46 years old and I`ve been on TRT for around 7 years.
I decided to try and stop TRT because It has been mostly ok but I struggle with libido and sensitivity down there as well as difficulty ejaculating and reaching orgasm although my testosterone was quite OK between always between 700 - 900. Tried TRT with and without AI although my E2 was never alarmingly high just based on these symptoms and sometimes some niple sensitivity and pain but without ginecomastia. I used anastrazol 0,25 gm twice per week first continually and later on demand. Sometimes it seemed to help sometimes it would make no difference.
I also tried to add HCG last 3 month before reducing my testosterone dose and eventually quitting TRT. HCG seemed to help a little with orgasm and to have a little more seminal fluid because I lost a lot of my semen volume on TRT. HCG was used at and I experimented different dosages from 250ui / 500ui / and 750ui 3 times/week.

It has been 6 month since I stopped TRT and my total T is 307ng/dl.
Free T - 5.90pg/dl
E2- 26pg/ml
SHBG - 40.19 nmol/l

I feel flat, lowered libido, less confident and Iess of a man and week in the gym.

Still taking 25mg clomid a day and I was actually taking 50mg a day when I did these last bloods that gave total T of 307ng/dl.

I`m thinking of trying HCG only at 750ui every other day what do you guys think?
 
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I am 46 years old and I`ve been on TRT for around 7 years.
I decided to try and stop TRT because It has been mostly ok but I struggle with libido and sensitivity down there as well as difficulty ejaculating and reaching orgasm although my testosterone was quite OK between always between 700 - 900. Tried TRT with and without AI although my E2 was never alarmingly high just based on these symptoms and sometimes some niple sensitivity and pain but without ginecomastia. I used anastrazol 0,25 gm twice per week first continually and later on demand. Sometimes it seemed to help sometimes it would make no difference.
I also tried to add HCG last 3 month before reducing my testosterone dose and eventually quitting TRT. HCG seemed to help a little with orgasm and to have a little more seminal fluid because I lost a lot of my semen volume on TRT. HCG was used at and I experimented different dosages from 250ui / 500ui / and 750ui 3 times/week.

It has been 6 month since I stopped TRT and my total T is 307ng/dl.
Free T - 5.90pg/dl
E2- 26pg/ml
SHBG - 40.19 nmol/l

I feel flat, lowered libido, less confident and Iess of a man and week in the gym.

Still taking 25mg clomid a day and I was actually taking 50mg a day when I did these last bloods that gave total T of 307ng/dl.

I`m thinking of trying HCG only at 750ui every other day what do you guys think?
I'll be interested in other's thought on this however, I can say that when I took clomid alone, 25mg twice a week or 12mg every other day was the most I could tolerate without getting similar symptoms to what you have. Some people do not do well with higher doses. I also found that to drop the dose, I had to come off completely for a month or so and then restart.
 
I am 46 years old and I`ve been on TRT for around 7 years.
I decided to try and stop TRT because It has been mostly ok but I struggle with libido and sensitivity down there as well as difficulty ejaculating and reaching orgasm although my testosterone was quite OK between always between 700 - 900. Tried TRT with and without AI although my E2 was never alarmingly high just based on these symptoms and sometimes some niple sensitivity and pain but without ginecomastia. I used anastrazol 0,25 gm twice per week first continually and later on demand. Sometimes it seemed to help sometimes it would make no difference.
I also tried to add HCG last 3 month before reducing my testosterone dose and eventually quitting TRT. HCG seemed to help a little with orgasm and to have a little more seminal fluid because I lost a lot of my semen volume on TRT. HCG was used at and I experimented different dosages from 250ui / 500ui / and 750ui 3 times/week.

It has been 6 month since I stopped TRT and my total T is 307ng/dl.
Free T - 5.90pg/dl
E2- 26pg/ml
SHBG - 40.19 nmol/l

I feel flat, lowered libido, less confident and Iess of a man and week in the gym.

Still taking 25mg clomid a day and I was actually taking 50mg a day when I did these last bloods that gave total T of 307ng/dl.

I`m thinking of trying HCG only at 750ui every other day what do you guys think?
Are you primary hypogonadism?. If your testicles don't properly work, neither HCG or clomid will help much.
 
Are you primary hypogonadism?. If your testicles don't properly work, neither HCG or clomid will help much.

You ask a good question. Is HCG rated to work better with Primary Hypogonadism or Secondary Hypogonadism? Curious because I have secondary Hypo and I have been on HCG for 2 months and have not seen any results in testicle size increase.
 
You ask a good question. Is HCG rated to work better with Primary Hypogonadism or Secondary Hypogonadism? Curious because I have secondary Hypo and I have been on HCG for 2 months and have not seen any results in testicle size increase.
If you have secondary then both should work HCG and clomid
 
Are you primary hypogonadism?. If your testicles don't properly work, neither HCG or clomid will help much.
I was diagnosed as secondary because many years ago before I started TRT I reacted well to clomid and testosterone levels raised all the way up to 800ng/dl two months after starting the treatment.

This time 5 month later I am only 307ng/dl.
 
Only one shot of 750ui yesterday morning made me feel better and sex and sensitivity down there felt immediately better than before.
I am aware though that it can be placebo effect so only continuation will tell if it makes a difference.
I just don't know if to drop clomid completely or not. I would like to hear what other more experienced and educated on the matter have to say.
 

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