Giving up on TRT after 5 years

[Stoak]

After 5 years of HRT/TRT I'm packing it in. I now have BPH, I'm on a statin and repatha, I take cialis and an alpha blocker... testosterone and hcg, occasionally arimidex. The thing is that I didn't need any of these drugs 6 years ago before I started TRT so why am I on them now?

I bought into the fact that TRT could "fix metabolic issues" and it's "low testosterone that causes the prostate to grow" etc and since I began TRT, I have wrecked my cholesterol and I can barely pee.

I've become a walking polypharmacy. The libido swings... tinkering with HCG doses, daily injects vs weekly vs 2X per week... all the bloodwork. I'm just tired and getting sicker and wondering how this became a full time ordeal instead of a weekly medicine that just runs in the background. I just started my high HCG doses before I begin SERM therapy and the crazy thing is I feel fantastic now after this burst of HCG lol.

Anyone else feel like this? Like it's just become an unhealthy hassle all to hold and extra 10-20 pounds of muscle in the gym?

I had sub 300ng/dl testosterone before TRT but I could function fine. I began TRT bc I wasn't sure what if I was "supposed to feel this way" or not. I do have way less aches and pains and weigh 30 extra pounds at the same bodyfat but I'm just tired of it. Perhaps I will continue the HCG montherapy if I am still feeling great in 2 weeks and drop everything else I can't say. I'm sure everyone is going to ask me what the hell happened and if I'm sick when I show up in 3 months with a skinny neck and weight 30 less pounds.

I suppose we will know in about 3 months whether I'm itching to get back on or I can live with it.

Just a rant.

 

[Seagal]

Thank you for sharing your experience. Seems like you got all the possible side effects of (super physiological testosterone) TRT.

 

[Vince]

After 5 years of HRT/TRT I'm packing it in. I now have BPH, I'm on a statin and repatha, I take cialis and an alpha blocker... testosterone and hcg, occasionally arimidex. The thing is that I didn't need any of these drugs 6 years ago before I started TRT so why am I on them now?

I bought into the fact that TRT could "fix metabolic issues" and it's "low testosterone that causes the prostate to grow" etc and since I began TRT, I have wrecked my cholesterol and I can barely pee.

I've become a walking polypharmacy. The libido swings... tinkering with HCG doses, daily injects vs weekly vs 2X per week... all the bloodwork. I'm just tired and getting sicker and wondering how this became a full time ordeal instead of a weekly medicine that just runs in the background. I just started my high HCG doses before I begin SERM therapy and the crazy thing is I feel fantastic now after this burst of HCG lol.

Anyone else feel like this? Like it's just become an unhealthy hassle all to hold and extra 10-20 pounds of muscle in the gym?

I had sub 300ng/dl testosterone before TRT but I could function fine. I began TRT bc I wasn't sure what if I was "supposed to feel this way" or not. I do have way less aches and pains and weigh 30 extra pounds at the same bodyfat but I'm just tired of it. Perhaps I will continue the HCG montherapy if I am still feeling great in 2 weeks and drop everything else I can't say. I'm sure everyone is going to ask me what the hell happened and if I'm sick when I show up in 3 months with a skinny neck and weight 30 less pounds.

I suppose we will know in about 3 months whether I'm itching to get back on or I can live with it.

Just a rant.

Thank you for your thoughts. I would recommend eating lots of good, healthy vegetables. The non-starchy ones.......,with oil so you can easily absorb the nutrition.

 

[DixieWrecked]

There has to be a happy middle ground. If you gained 30 pounds of muscle from your dose then just back off some. just keep backing off until you feel better. Seems more logical than just going from full dose to zero.

 

[Stoak]

Thank you for sharing your experience. Seems like you got all the possible side effects of (super physiological testosterone) TRT.

Feels that way. I bought into a lot of the BS coming out of the high end testosterone promoters early on. "200mg a week starting dose. There is no link between BPH and testosterone at any level. Testosterone improves cardiovascular function etc."

These are by the same crew pushing 200mg weekly shots.

I would argue there is a certain contingent that is viewed favorably by many (the E2 doesn't matter cohort, free t should be 30 or higher etc) that does promote higher end TRT. The majority of the time my total t was 1000 and my free t was 30. My dose was 112mg to 160mg the majority of the time. This is not insane and based on Morgenthalers literature and prostate saturation theory I should not have had any prostate issues regardless of my testosterone dose/use yet I can barely pee and have stage 2 enlargement with a distended bladder in my mid 40s.

Always trying to find my sweet spot and then having it run away from me I a couple of weeks was another major hassle I just got tired of dealing with.

 

[Stoak]

There has to be a happy middle ground. If you gained 30 pounds of muscle from your dose then just back off some. just keep backing off until you feel better. Seems more logical than just going from full dose to zero.

I tried that. I ran 112 mg in daily injections and ran 700 total t and had zero symptom resolution. I always needed to be 25-30 free t for it to work along with hcg.